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While in the United States Chevrolet was marketing the 138-series SS396, in Canada there was a curious version that was not well known or understood. In fact, its very existence is doubted by many - the Malibu SS of 1966 and 1967.

Following on the heals of the 64/65 Malibu SS, where the SS was really more about trim than drive train, in Canada they continued with that marketing strategy. Although the 1965 Auto Pact between Canada & the U.S. would soon have a marked effect on model offerings, the â66 models were already committed to production.

In the U.S. there were a number of different series, many drive train combinations and many options. In Canada they made do with only 2 series, simplified drive train choices and fewer interior options. In the U.S. there were 300 series, 300 Deluxe series, the Malibu and the SS396 series. In Canada there was only the 300 & Malibu series. Since there was no 300 Deluxe series for a base wagon, it was shifted into the base 300 series. Canadian production was perhaps 1/10th of that in the U.S. in terms of volume. Sheer economics dictated a more simplified lineup. For probably that reason alone, convertible production needed whatever means to get production figures up to the point where the body style was profitable to build after tooling up. Besides offering a convertible on the Malibu, there was also a 300 convertible to appeal to the traditionally thrifty Canadians. Combine that production with the Chevelleâs fraternal twin the Beaumont and it is likely that GM Canada built the cars profitably with that formula. However, the base 300 was not a big factor on convertible sales. For example, only 96 of the V8 300-series convertibles were built for 1967!  There were never more than about 200 or 300 of those cars produced annually as six cylinder or eight cylinder models.

As for the Malibu SS, it was the means by which you got bucket seats in your 135 or 136 series Malibu Sports Coupe or Convertible. In the U.S., the RPO A51 stood for Bucket Seats, but in Canada it stood for an option package referred to by GM Canada as âThe Sports Optionâ. They may as well have referred to it as âThe Malibu SS Optionâ since thatâs what it was, but it also turned a Beaumont Custom into a Beaumont Sport Deluxe. It even turned a Pontiac Parisienne (sort of a Catalina/Chevrolet hybrid) into a Parisienne Custom Sport.

The Malibu SS, or the 'Malibu with the Sports Option' (as GM put it so clumsily in the brochures), was a trim option mainly. You bought and paid for Bucket Seats, Console (except 3-speed manual cars) and the low cost P01 Wheel Covers. Chevrolet would add the ribbed rocker panel moldings and matching rear quarter extension from the SS396. Malibu SS emblems sourced from the 1965 models adorned the quarter panels. Front and rear it was pure Malibu, lacking any hood or grille modifications whatsoever. Out back for â66 they simply used Argent paint fill in the Malibu rear cove to differentiate the SS. Under the conventional hood you could specify all the regular Chevelle engines; the 194, 230, 283 2-barrel, the 327 275-horse 4-barrel, PLUS you could also specify the 360-horspower Turbo-Jet 396 V8. This was a legitimate situation where a 136-series car could have a 396, whereas today it marks a U.S. car as a fake SS. Transmission choices in Canada were pretty straight forward as well; 3-speed manual, 4-speed manual (M20 only) or Powerglide automatic. The only ornamentation that showed your Malibu SS as being big-block powered were the crossed-flags on the front fenders. The 396-powered Beaumont Sport Deluxe was a true sleeper since it used the same 'V8â insignia that was used on 283 & 327 cars. No redlines either for 1966.

The situation was much the same for 1967. In the U.S. you could get a Malibu with either bench or optional bucket seats and power ranging from a 140-horse six to a 325-horse 327 V8, and you could get an SS396 with either bench or bucket seats and a 396 with either 325 or optional 350-horsepower (375 horses added secretly late in the run). Meanwhile in Canada you could get a Malibu with bench seats and power ranging from the 140-horse six to the 275-horse 327. Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8. The âSports Optionâ came with buckets, console, P01 wheel covers (now with âSSâ center emblems), while GM gave the wheel opening moldings and ribbed rockers from the SS396 to you in place of the usual Malibu fare (lower body side moldings that ran aft of the front wheel to the back bumper). The âMalibu SSâ emblem was again employed. The front and rear styling was regular Malibu, with no âBig Blockâ hoods being used even with a 396, and the rear was pure Malibu. They didnât even get any special rear end paint (Argent, Black or otherwise), to distinguish a Malibu SS. Oh, I almost forgot that the wood grained dash strip was used, along with the Malibu script above the glove box. At least the horn button said âSSâ instead of âChevelleâ. For 1967 the 396-powered Malibu SS came standard with F70-14 redline tires mounted on 14x6 wheels. Also not even mentioned in the brochure, but somehow ordered by a few 396 buyers anyway, was the same low wide optional D96 side striping (the same one offered in the U.S. on the SS396 optionally).

So, do you now think youâre finally straight on the Malibu SS in Canada?  Well, they stopped with that scenario in December of 1966. Starting New Yearâs 1967 the Malibu SS was gone. You could now get a 138-series SS396 as in the U.S., and you could now also get bench or bucket seats in your Malibu and still come out with a Malibu. No more 136-series cars with 396 power, it was 138-series only

Canadian Chevelles did not have a SUPER SPORT model per se in 1966, hence all Malibu Sport Coupes and Convertibles have the 136 VIN. The SS option, A51 could be ordered with any engine much like the 1964 and 1965 U.S. SS optioned Chevelles. The L34 was the only 396 available in Canadian built cars in 1966, no 325hp or 375hp engines. Starting mid year 1967, there were Canadian 138 VIN Super Sport models being produced.

Some things to watch for on Canadian built Chevelles are the under hood, firewall, underbody and sometimes trunk were painted the body color. Some trunks were a medium gray with aqua spatter paint  Two cars built a week apart may have different trunk paint schemes.

Only 499 396 SS cars (sport coupes and convertibles) were built. The majority came with 4-speed, power brakes (all boosters are black), no power steering. Apparently, some kind of package GM Canada suggested to dealers to launch the 396 car as the A51, M20, L34, F40 suspension and power brakes were packaged together at a special price so a lot of Canadian SS's have this base equipment.

None of the early Super Sport models came with the scooped hood or blacked out grille like the U.S. counterpart but they did get the black valance for the most part and some even came with the valance painted argent silver.

Only 50 SS 396 convertibles were built in Oshawa Ontario, making them rarer than a Z16.  Of course they were the flat hood, 360 hp only. One of the fifty was owned by a fellow that was part owner of the CanAm Restoration/upholstery company in Detroit. Also in 1965, you could get the L79, 350 hp 327 in our Beaumonts and it had a name like Panther. It was a play on the Tiger since the Beaumonts were a Pontiac brand. I test drove a brand new, would you believe a white four door L79 4speed, Beaumont at Bow Mclean motors in Vancouver B.C. in 1965 and the car was awesome; ugly as sin but fast



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Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the information that I have been asking but no one could answer until now. So let me clarify.... There were only 50 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS convertibles with a factory installed 396 360hp engine produced in Oshawa ON? I have been looking for quite some time for this exact car. If you or anyone else has knowledge of where a car like this exists....I would appreciate any leads or tips. I'm willing to even offer a finders fee. Hey, I would even except a basket case.

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Hello All,

Not sure where Fred "lifted this" information from but it has some glaring errors in it.

First off for the '66 model year GM of Canada produced three distinct model series not the two mentioned in the original post.

Chevelle 300 131/132 for two door sedan, convertible, four door sedan, wagon

Chevelle 300 Deluxe 133/134 cars for two door sedan, four door sedan and wagons

Malibu 135/136 for four door wagon, sedan and sport hardtop, two door convertible and coupe.

Please refers to the link provided
http://cdnclassics.chevelles.net/canmodel.htm#66
information was taken directly from GM of Canada sources.

Second the only major drive train choices not available in Canada was the 325/375 HP 396 V8's in '66.   In'67 the only engine choice not available was the 375 HP 396 V8.   As for transmissions there were no M21/M22 four speed manual transmissions in '66 & '67 for both Chevelles and Beaumonts.   Those options were available in the US.  

Third it was possible to order a Malibu coupe or convertible with the A51 bucket seat option.  Doing so did not automatically make a Malibu into a Malibu SS as stated in the original post.    I have documented multiple cars with the A51 option that were not Malibu SS coupes or convertibles.  Same goes for Beaumont Customs.

The only engine you couldn't order in a Malibu/Beaumont was the 396 V8 unless you specified the A51 Sports Option package.   Once you did that you had a Malibu SS or Beaumont SD.

Fourth the back cove panels on '66 Malibu SS' could be argent silver, a brushed aluminum panel or body colour.   At this time I haven't been able to determine why GM of Canada had three versions but they did.

Fifth on all Canadian cars that I've seen so far for '64 & '68 the firewalls, inside the trunks and under body are body colour.   That's the way GM of Canada did it to reduce production costs from unnecessary painting steps during production.    Once cars got to the dealers, dealers sold undercoating to preserve the underbody.   If customers asked for it then trunks could be splatter painted after the sale.

Sixth the SS stripe package on the '67 Chevelle SS in Canada wasn't the same as the American car.   The American car had a single stripe from front fender to the rear quarter panel

The Canadian stripe package had an additional stripe that ran along the top the bottom stripe,  It started at the front fender rose over the front wheel well opening along the rest of the front fender and door.   Along the rear quarter panel over the rear wheel well opening to the end of the rear quarter panel.

One must be very carefull when talking about the '66 & '67 Malibu SS/Beaumont SD cars.   The Malibu SS is not a Chevelle SS, hence the rules used to distinquish them are different.  Same goes for the Beaumont

If you're looking for a straight and easy rule of thumb to follow there isn't one.  GM of Canada produced cars for sale in Canada and for the export market.  They were free to produce what would sell in Canada and abroad.   Canada of the 1960's isn't the Canada, we know today.   It was still a seperate country, the Autopact agreement was the end of that "free enterprise".   While it freely allowed cars to flow over the border it also ended the "originality" of the Canadian auto market. 
 
Why did GM of Canada use the same option code for two different things, I don't know.   What I can say is that I've seen lots of two door coupes and convertibles and some on this site have proven they have Beaumont Customs with buckets and consoles that didn't make their cars into Sport Deluxes.

While the post had some interesting insight into things, the information put forth is based on some very inacurate information.

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it was on an american chevelle site,chevelle stuff

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I would appreciate if someone here could clarify information regarding Malibu SS in 1966. Im well aware that you could order a small block 283 or 327 and have a Malibu SS on the quarter panel. Was Malibu SS just a trim option? And if so, it received lower ribbed rocker panel chrome.... Malibu SS scripts for the quarters Correct? Was there anything else that was in that package? If you ordered A51 option(bucket seats and console) did you automatically receive Malibu SS on the quarter panel? Would it state on the cowl tag if a car is a Malibu SS instead of just a Malibu? Could you order the 396 without having it with the Malibu SS package? Did any 1966 Chevelle leave the factory with a 427? How many Malibu SS were produced in coupe and convertible and with the big block? And were any 1966 Chevelles produced in Sainte-Thérèse, Quebec?



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I was hoping that Dave Weir could shed some light on this.



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LOVE TO HEAR idea from Dave...confused

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Hi guys I picked up a 66 malibue SS with factory 327 m 20 4 gear resently sent the vin to GM to verify and come back as a malibu SS 327 4 speed car.

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my info pkg states the A 51 includes sports equipment option, strato-bucket front seats, all-vinal trim, center console with automatic or 4-speed option, electric clock, Malibue SS nameplate on rear quarter panels, ribbed rocker panel molding and rear quarter lower molding, wheel trim discs.

can you tell me if there were any difference in interior patterens to it's american counter part

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Thanks for the response Topless,

That sheds some light on some of my questions....I'm still waiting patiently for Dave Weir to answer the rest....perhaps he could answer your question as well.

Sounds like a nice car you picked up.....do you believe its a number matching car?....is it restored or in need of restoration?

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I have a restored 66 beaumont convertible, the malibue is in the works, havn't had time this summer for it, have everything I need to do just looking for time, plus spent to much on the beaumont this spring, put a posi with 355 and built a 400 tranny for it.

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also how do ya go about putting a picture with your post like you have on the right side of the post

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topless wrote:

also how do ya go about putting a picture with your post like you have on the right side of the post



One way is to Click on your user name and you will go to your profile. Click on Avatar and down load your photo, follow the instructions. smile


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Hey....Topless....do you know of any 66 malibuSS convertibles?

also I'm looking for 1967 Beaumont SD lower rocker chrome....(no... 67 chevelle ss rocker is different)..seems like a difficult part to find ....does anyone else know where I could get my hands on such a part? 



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I know of one 66 rag top down here cant recallif its a SS or not, I stoped to see if it was for sale but the women said it was'nt then i later heard that they had split up but not sure what come of the car, also there is a 67 rag top beaumont locally Ive checked out for parts for my car, I was interested in the windshield trim n the radio,  it was kinda beat up, like they pushed it around with a tractor, it has a 327 3 on the tree in it, the old farmer wants the motor but I never heard back from him that was last winter,

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If you could get me a phone number for both of those cars it would be much appreciated.....a very good friend of mine is looking for a 67 beaumont conv.....doesn't matter what condition the car is in....if we managed to get it...you can have anything you want off of it first.
Can you email me back personally at all_laughter@hotmail.com

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if you want to ride to port hope ontario these two are for sale $6000 each





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LOL.....how about this one of WILLIES instead...for 3000.00 nice 66 chevelle convertible.....doesn't need much other than frame floors trunk top....quarters doors.....hood....fenders......dash...interior...gas tank....trunk lid....I believe I might be missing a few things.....oh...I figured I would thoughtfully show all our readers some pics....just in case one of them wants to rush over there and give him 3000.00 cash.....


.....oh btw....forgot something.....nothing major....just its missing the cowl tag....VIN tag.....and ownership......


see....I might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but I have been around the block a time or two....I'm no longer 18 looking for cool ride.....and I'm very well aware how much these cars are worth and what it costs to restore them!

Thanks for your imput......I'll pass biggrin

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maybe you should chill out a bit buddy,if you knew the story,somebody broke into his place and stole a bunch of stuff,along with the vin off that car,willy would give anybody the shirt of his back,ive seen it,im incuded ,he helped me with my car ,there not making 67 chevelle ragtops anymore last time i checked and nobodys forcing you to buy anything,you have your choices,and i will always back my friends up and i know steve , clint and brad would back him up as well


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willy peeled this car out of a field where it sat for 20 years ,did a full resto on it ,built it back up from just a firewall.its flawless underneath,he turned down $45000 for it this summer,he knew the cars rarity and brought it back properly.if someone with ideas like that it would have gotten it  it would  been hauled in for srcap instead.



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Chill out.....I have an opinion.....just like you. I stated my opinion. Not here to offend anyone. When I spoke to Willy up at Barrie he said he had a 1966 Convertible for sale for 3000.00. But he neglected to inform me that all the tags are off the car. MY OPINION STATES....the car is not worth even close to 3000.00 Just because they are not making something anymore doesn't mean that it is "worth" an arm and a leg.  Sorry but the last time I was at the ministry they need a ownership and a VIN number(on the car) to change owners.....The car has neither! In fact Willy told me that you can locate a guy up in Barrie automotive flea market that could get me tags, ownerships...what ever I need. Not something I want to get involved in. It's too bad that someone stole whatever off the car....the bottom line  "its not sellable" PERIOD! I also had a very through look at those cars you posted. Yes, those cars are buildable. But my OPINION says...not worth 6000.00 If they were reasonablly and fairly priced they would have been sold a long time ago. My opinion states that they are worth maybe 3000.00. I think everyone on this site would agree that if you're into a situation where you buy a convertible Beaumont that needs everything(including a frame)...you're looking at a 30,000 dollar restoration(give or take 1000's...depending on perfection) if you're doing 75 percent of it yourself. Hey all the best to Willy if he can get 6,000 each for those cars. If I have to replace or rebuild EVERYTHING on a car.....I'm not paying 6000.00 I have always had a love for Beaumonts and Chevelles but they are not in the price range of Mopar. REALITY. Anyone that purchases something wants the price to be at fair market value. Unless you have more money than Donald Trump and don't care. biggrin 

If I have offended anyone here....my sincere apologies.
BUT let me tell you. If someone has something for sale I would prefer if they give an accurate description and straight forward honest facts. I'm tired of wild goose chases.....big fish stories and being mislead.
   

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hey man i was pissed because hes a good guy and i dont like you laughing at him,im sure he didnt mislead you on purpose,but i know hes got the knowhow to build a car from nothing i bought every bit of sheetmetal for my car for $2000 dollars,maybe he thought you had it in you.hes got alot of stuff and to be honest that cars not the best thing hes got but i know he paid good money for along time collecting those parts,and willy always sells complete cars so im sure more would have come with it ,he has enough parts to build 20 cars.

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I have complete respect for someone that stands up for friends! I would do the same! I was laughing with Willy not at him. There is a difference. Hey, I got a great idea, tell Willy to advertise those convertible Beaumonts on Ebay...he's sure to get top dollar for them or what the "market bares".

As for the purple/maroon convertible Beaumont that Willy owns that you say he turned down 45,000. Oh btw....the sticker on the window reads "restored by WES"......was that not WES's car? Did Wes restore the car or did Willy restore the car? If Willy pulled it out of a field and restored it would it not say "restored by Willy"? Lets not forget. WES....GOD BLESS HIS SOUL! ....WAS A GREAT GUY!
Anyways, let me tell you something interesting.....A concours 1967 Beaumont SD convertible (completely restored) 99.5 point car was sold just over a year ago for 50,000 US...Secondly.......an acquaintance that I met not to long ago bought a 1967 SD convertible Beaumont for under 20,000 dollars in very good shape! I don't want to mention names...but he might speak up here. So, with that said, so whats a 1967 Beaumont Custom Convertible...(mint) worth..... maybe.....30,000....but thats my opinion. If he was offered 45,000....thats just great....but I have been keeping track of the car market. Keep in mind that the collector car market is sluggish.....and as far as I'm concerned is going down.....the US...is in a recession....we feel the backlash.....gas prices are killing everyone.....I don't see where things are getting any better......collector cars are not selling on ebay for top dollar.....Chevelles typically are valued higher.....It's unfortunate...the average working joe.....with a mortgage....wife and kids....expenses that keeps going up.....hardly has enough cash to afford a muscle car nor less build one.



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Im gonna jump in now. If you have issues with Willy feel free to take it up with him, this shouldnt be handled on a public forum, I dont know why he is trying to sell that Chevelle convertible. In my opinion Its not worth anything with the tags stolen off it, maybe the cowl might be special to that car I dont know. Maybe Willy things different, but thats Willy. You wont find Willy on ebay hes one of these older dudes that still fighting computers

As for 6000 each for Beaumont convertibles that are drivable Im thinking that is around what they are worth. Sure they will take mega dollars to become show cars, but they all do. Im even thinking about one, the wife wants a convertible bug maybe I can swing her to a Beaumont.

The 67 by Wes, was done by both when they had the business, Willy does the steel work, Wes did the finesse. Now that Wes is deceased I dont think Willy will ever sell that one it has to many memories.

It was worth 45,000 but as you say the market is flat, any of my acquaintance that sell old cars are saying anything that sold last year for 35,000 you would be hard pressed to get 17,000 this year, there was a lot of antique cars for sale in all the car show Ive been to this year.

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well if you knew anything willy and wes were in business together untill wes died of a heart attack while working on that beaumont elcamino you see in the background there,they found him lying under the car dead,so willy out of respect for him put his name on the car.so back to you get yor f**king story straight,you know dick about anything about my friends so dont judge them ,if you cant afford to be in the hobby get out of it ,im, sure the import crowd would accept you.if your selling any 67 beaumont convertibles for 3 grand ,please give me a call as i would be very interested.the problem with the old car hobby today is all you need is a car to be in it,so any jerk can be in it.i dont think this forum should be used for bashing other beaumont owners ,since we should bond together and help each other ,just because you had a unfortunate incident that didnt go the way YOU liked.myself and many others have done business with willy and it went well ,i just bought a big block hood off him and he actually tracked it down for me and traded one of his motors to a guy so he could get it to me ,thats a friend ,and that is what the hobby is about.you need to change that attitude.
and thats the end of discusion about that,good luck finding the car of your dreams.and by the way its unfortunate the car didnt have tags and i know why that would be upsetting to you,i can understand that but i know willy told you about the car with good intentions to because you wanted to see it,and you see willy has a memory problem and doesnt always know know what he has or its condition but i know he always paid alot of money for his stuff off people who were going to scrap some cars and would bring them to him,and he would buy them to help them out and save a car at the same time,i Know he wasnt trying to screw you but what do you want a free car handed to you,doesnt happen to me?maybe we was a little out of hand on that one but hes a guy that would help you and its to bad you didnt get to be friends with him.
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