20 produced?

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

20 produced?

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Thats hard to belive. Let see documentation!

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

If not mistaken, that car was from Haliburton On. I remember seeing it on ebay about 5 years ago being sold by the late original owners family. It was special ordered with the 6. The person lived in Haliburton and ordered if from the GM dealership there.

I guess if you can't move it with the stock hubcaps, add some pimpin wheels eh. wtf.

Add power and suspension to that sweet body, and it would surely make one heck of a street machine imop!

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

I'd agree on the wheels that's for sure BUT I think that original powertrain is really what makes the car desireable to the right collector. I believe the 1 of 20 figure for the I-6, probably just as rare as a 427.

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

i imagine thats why they dropped the six from the 2+2 model line?

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

If it were mine, I'd very carefully remove and store all the original stuff away. And when building it up I'd be super carefull to ensure it could always be put back to original. It's such a nice body style, But the 6 would just have to go into storage imop.
If you could score that car for say..15K, you'd not have to do anything else but drivetrain and engine. How much would you spend to bring any driving quality 2+2 body into that condition. It's all done!
I mean really, How much fun would that car ever be with a 6?

-- Edited by cdnpont at 12:12, 2009-02-11

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

It would be no fun.

Sixes seemed to be making more and more apperances lately. By far most Canadian cars back then were sixes according to my memory. Our first 8 was in 1970 and everyone on our street was amazed. We've said it before, if you had a Pontiac with a 261 there was very little benefit if any to having a small block.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

You're right about the sixes being common. I think it also went along with Canadians having more very austere cars back in the sixties. Such as StratoChiefs, Custom 500's and the like. Seems we were not inclined to much luxury back then. People here just wanted transportation, maybe spending extra money was like throwing it away up here, I mean, most cars back then were killed by rust within a few years anyway.
All the mockup engines in my auto class were sixes. And most of our middle class neighbours had cars with sixes as well.

If I remember right, the story was that they tried to sell the fellow a 327, but he absolutely insisted on a six, because that's what he had always had and was familiar with.

65Camino · Uber Guru

Why not build up the six?

19Pontiac65 · Veteran Member

turquoise with red interior, never saw that color combo before.

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

cdnpont wrote:

If I remember right, the story was that they tried to sell the fellow a 327, but he absolutely insisted on a six, because that's what he had always had and was familiar with.

Sounds just like my Dad. wink

Same rationale for why he ordered a 6 banger in our 70 Cutlass. It is one of about 6xx. More than you would think and that is why I don't believe this 2+2 was one of only 20. I have seen quite a few 66 Impala SS with a six, they were more common than you would think in Canada, for all the reasons stated above. And yes, I would build up the six like I did on the Cutlass, it always gets a lot of attention at any cruise night. smile

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

65Camino wrote:

Why not build up the six?

Too expensive... and it sounds like a six

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

cdnpont wrote:

If it were mine, I'd very carefully remove and store all the original stuff away. And when building it up I'd be super carefull to ensure it could always be put back to original. It's such a nice body style, But the 6 would just have to go into storage imop.
If you could score that car for say..15K, you'd not have to do anything else but drivetrain and engine. How much would you spend to bring any driving quality 2+2 body into that condition. It's all done!
I mean really, How much fun would that car ever be with a 6?

You might as well take out all the original stuff and sell it.. You would never need it again, in our lifetimes...

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

427carl wrote:

65Camino wrote:

Why not build up the six?

Too expensive... and it sounds like a six

Mine sounds like the 6 in a Grand National, I think that sounds pretty good...

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

i know a 6 cyl 2+2 would be rare ? but 20?

Sackville New Brunswick Sept 1964 Rushed down to Loundeburys Chev Olds to see the new 65's! In the showroom? A black 1965 IMPALA SS 2 door hardtop.. Red bucket seat interior! SIX powerglide... They sold it to my PeeWee hockey coach....nice car , until you started it...lol

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

All this non love for 6 cylinders!

Check out the sound of the 6 in the new Camaro:

http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/vehicles/chevrolet/camaro/insider

go to multimedia, then videos, and then scroll over to the 8th video from the left, large bald guy with sunglasses, that is my friend Elie putting a new 6 cylinder Camaro through it's paces, listen to his comments and the car!

-- Edited by Astro Jet at 14:57, 2009-02-11

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

That's a Cadillac 6, right? Sounds really sweet, sort of reminds me of a Dino sound, not the dinosaur the Ferrari!

Hey Hillar, if the 2+2 was a Laurentian or Strato Chief 20 I-6 cars would be ridiculous but in a 2+2, don't you think that is feasible.

-- Edited by 73SC at 16:24, 2009-02-11

gparis7 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

19Pontiac65 wrote:

turquoise with red interior, never saw that color combo before.

I remember seeing this car somewhere before. Besides being a six, I think it was described as being a special order combo of emerald turquoise on red interior. Apparently you could do that in the 50s & 60s. I once saw an article on a mid 50s Buick, same thing, seafoam green outside, red inside, said to be original special order.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

I have a friend who retired fromGM and he had COPO status. He once ordered as his own car a Navy with red leather interior Olds 88. That is what he referred to as a non-recommended colour combination. They had to designate a dealer to pick up their cars from so when it was ready he got the call. By the time he got to the dealer a salesman had sold it, as it was technically a demo he could. The car looked so good someone walked in, saw it and made the deal.

This guy did non recommended colour choices all the time, I remember him having a two tone Regal T-type, gold and black, with every concieveable option including T-tops, then there was the fleet red Suburban he had....it goes on and on. GM doesn't have car guys working there anymore he says.

Astro Jet · Poncho Master!

73SC wrote:

That's a Cadillac 6, right? Sounds really sweet, sort of reminds me of a Dino sound, not the dinosaur the Ferrari!

Hey Hillar, if the 2+2 was a Laurentian or Strato Chief 20 I-6 cars would be ridiculous but in a 2+2, don't you think that is feasible.

-- Edited by 73SC at 16:24, 2009-02-11

That's the GM corporate 6 Ray, but yes, I believe they have a version of that they can slip into the Caddies too. wink

Personally, I can't wait to test drive one, as much horsepower as the first version of the LS1 but we will have to see how it does in the torque dept.

As to the 2 + 2's, well I wonder if there are stats for how many Impala SS in total were built with 6 bangers from let's say 65-67 that we could extrapolate CP production from. We've all seen 6 cylinder Impala SS cars, they are not that uncommon, so given the general frugalness of Canadian Poncho buyers, why wouldn't more than 20 order the 6? Would you have ever guessed that over 600 customers had ordered an Old Cutlass with the 6 banger in 1970 if I had not told you that? That is even more of a stretch given the reputation and marketing of the famous Olds Rocket V8.

-- Edited by Astro Jet at 18:20, 2009-02-11

67HEAVEN · Poncho Master!

73SC wrote:

.......GM doesn't have car guys working there anymore he says.

Truer words were never spoken.

By the way, it is amazing what one of these could get you. Everything on paper says that no L-72 was available in Chevys or Canadian Pontiacs in 1967. But, in early 1967, an Impala SS427 was ordered by a senior Chevrolet Engineer....someone I know. He didn't want the 385hp version. He wanted all 425 horses. He got what he wanted.

It came with one of these.

Yes, they built a 427/425hp '67 Impala.

eeluddy · Uber Guru

Astro Jet wrote:

427carl wrote:

65Camino wrote:

Why not build up the six?

Too expensive... and it sounds like a six

Mine sounds like the 6 in a Grand National, I think that sounds pretty good...

I had a 68 Firebird convertible with the 250 OHC,4 bbl,3 speed stick. It sounded like a Jag.

Johann65 · Guru

Astro Jet wrote:

All this non love for 6 cylinders!

My Malibu's original 230CID packed up in 1982 and was replaced with a 250CID and a 3spd auto. The 250cid is running so smoothly and with good accelleration, Friends are amazed at the power of this old engine! It has not been overhauled and has approx 20K miles behind it! Mind you the Rochester monoject was replaced with a 38 Weber! The CANADIAN MALIBU is the talk of the Town!

68sd · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

this is 1967 american 2+2 production total

Number Produced: 240,750
(Includes 1,768 with 2+2 option)