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Any licenced Ontario electricians here?


I'm getting ready to wire the new shop. I plan on running a sub-panel off the main house panel down a 100-foot long trench.

What can you tell me about the new Ontario electrical inspection procedure?

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now thats a garage!! If you havent yet, I would just look at the goverment website and see what they say. Are you going 220 in there also? Would be a good idea and it looks like you have enough room for a pool (the wife will ask, just wait!!) LOL. I just hooked up my hottub in the back and now a pool is next, luckily its just a little above ground so she can cool off and float around while im working on the car.

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Yes, 220v for welding and a lift.

A pool? Not likely. rofl.gif



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when i did mine it had to be in buried conduit. and it was conduit box to box.

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67HEAVEN wrote:

I'm getting ready to wire the new shop. I plan on running a sub-panel off the main house panel down a 100-foot long trench.


       I think the limit is 52.5 feet   you will have to move the garage, closer to the house!!  no     or is your house moveable??  page 9 in the book article 13.4



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    Did you guys see the pallets of bricks?  He is going to brick the dreamcar garage!...  Were you recently charged, with investor fraud? no ?  you won the lottery last week? wink  wow  wow wow



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Present plan dig trench 100 ft long to garage.
Given that the limit is 52.5 ft, the answer = Extend garage 47.5 ft towards the house.

This solves at least two problems.
1. Meets code page 9 in the book article 13.4
2. Meets car guy code page 212 in the book article 98.6 (build larger than you think you want)

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ya!  what he said!!rofl.gif

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I'm about 70 feet from the house and I had no issues with the inspector. I did this when copper was crazy expensive and it was about a grand for the feed wire!



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i'm 100 ft from the house and i used 150 ft of 3 wire copper and it passed.

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Not a detailed answer specific to ON code, but something to consider, usually depending on depth you'll need one or two means of protection for the cable. This could mean combo of depth, tek cable (armoured), or conduit. Consider future flexibility, if you laying one run of conduit to the garage (to use cheaper non-armoured cable) then consider another 1.5-2" run that is in the same trench as far away from the first that is empty, this way you could always pull another power feed, or use it for alarm, phone, tv, etc.... the empty pipe doesnt cost too much more... use electrical conduit (nice large radius bends) and clean the cut edge of any pipe lengths inside well so there is no edge that can strip a wire you are pulling later.

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Or.... dig a long tunnel that you can get from the house to the garage and not even step outside. Its like your own little evil lair!! You could hold secret poncho meetings and sacrifice a ford now and again!! On a realitic note, the other pipe is perfect and you should run a doorbell or a seperate light that the wife can use when its supper time.

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Don't forget a water line and a floor drain in the garage !

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put in a urinal! best thing in a garage and you dont get yelled at from the wife for getting the towels and washroom dirty!! My brother and I are putting one in his and we might use my old beer fridge from the 50's to hide it. Cut it so its not as deep and when you open the door...voila!

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put in a urinal! best thing in a garage and you dont get yelled at from the wife for getting the towels and washroom dirty!! My brother and I are putting one in his and we might use my old beer fridge from the 50's to hide it. Cut it so its not as deep and when you open the door...voila!



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I guess there are no licenced Ontario electricians here. rofl.gif


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ive done it!! You dig a 2 foot hole and fill it with gravel and put the hose from the funnel down in it. Just dont let the nieghbors catch ya.

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I guess there are no licenced Ontario electricians here. rofl.gif




    Sorryno   but I was envious of the "palace" you call a garage... We are full of ideas, but noooo licence



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Envy is unecessary, Carl. We all have stuff, but in the bigger scheme of things, stuff doesn't matter. wink

The reason I ask about inspections is that, as always, I like to do as much as possible myself. I've built this garage, with occasional help from friends and neighbours, but now that I'm getting to electrical, I'd like to hear from a licenced electrician before I begin.

I wired a smaller (20' x 20') shop at my last place, but I know that regulations/inspections have changed since then.



I'm on the stairway to Heaven........67HEAVEN. rofl.gif



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The fellow who wired my garage is a member on here but only comes on every couple of months. I'll email him and have him come on and answer your questions.
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that's one helluva nice shop you're building there bob! wink

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that's one helluva nice shop you're building there bob! wink




Yup, when is the "garage-warming" BBQ? biggrin



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69 belair wrote:

that's one helluva nice shop you're building there bob! wink




Yup, when is the "garage-warming" BBQ? biggrin



This summer, when the inside is finished.



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