GM Vintage documents

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

GM Vintage documents

ak 67sd · Poncho Master!

Say it aint so! Bring out the clones!hahaha!

ak

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

ak 67sd wrote:

Say it aint so! Bring out the clones!hahaha!

ak

That would be sad. I can't imagine they are losing money at $57 a pop.

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

67BBSD wrote:

Just a rumour at this point-but I was told today by a Toronto customer that GM plans to close its historical vehicle division as part of the cuts-I'll call George and ask for first hand input-this would be sad.

Please keep us posted!!!! I want a chance to order my last few cars before it is shut down. cry

CDN2PLS2 · Uber Guru

I'd Love to take it over!My Dream Job.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

CDN2PLS2 wrote:

I'd Love to take it over!My Dream Job.

Mark-thats kinda what the telephone call was about, this guy suggested buying the rights to the information

CDN2PLS2 · Uber Guru

I've been there to see them do it.I think I could handle it.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

CDN2PLS2 wrote:

I've been there to see them do it.I think I could handle it.

there you go ! add it to your current business, bring a cell phone and pen to your Stelco office to write down the V.I.N.'s

lets not get our hopes up-I find it hard to believe this is going to happen and if it does George would be the man to buy the job

CDN2PLS2 · Uber Guru

What Stelco office??I don't even have a cell phone.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Well your going to have to buy a cell phone so the customer's think your in the office !! I do it-just forward the office calls to the cell-doesn't matter where I am

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

That would be sad. I can't imagine they are losing money at $57 a pop.

I would have to say that I can't imagine they make anything at $57. When management is faced with a cutback situation like they are now generally they focus on core functions and those that are not core are expendable. I can't imagine that looking up VIN's for 40 year old cars is core. If this 'past customer' service is cut it would certainly not be a surprise to me. It adds nothing to the main objective of the company which is selling new cars.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

73SC wrote:

Carl Stevenson wrote:

That would be sad. I can't imagine they are losing money at $57 a pop.

I would have to say that I can't imagine they make anything at $57. When management is faced with a cutback situation like they are now generally they focus on core functions and those that are not core are expendable. I can't imagine that looking up VIN's for 40 year old cars is core. If this 'past customer' service is cut it would certainly not be a surprise to me. It adds nothing to the main objective of the company which is selling new cars.

yes-very much agreed-at $57 a pop I'm surprised they even do it-way back when it was free tons were done-I doubt they do that many, lets say they do three an hour everyday five days a week all year long thats what ? 750 or so a year @ $57 each that wouldn't cover the wages and benifits of the employees let alone the office space equipment etc...

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Yes Ken and while the idea that someone could purchase the rights to do this is a great idea for enthusiasts the basic paradym remains unchanged. It would be difficult to do this on a profit basis unless you already had an infastructure in place and a diversified offering of other related services. Numbers are my life, I do this stuff everyday. One idea for feasiblilty would be for a large parts supplier, like Ames or PY to do this for example since it would compliment and enhance their core function which is selling restoration autoparts.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

73SC wrote:

Yes Ken and while the idea that someone could purchase the rights to do this is a great idea for enthusiasts the basic paradym remains unchanged. It would be difficult to do this on a profit basis unless you already had an infastructure in place and a diversified offering of other related services. Numbers are my life, I do this stuff everyday. One idea for feasiblilty would be for a large parts supplier, like Ames or PY to do this for example since it would compliment and enhance their core function which is selling restoration autoparts.

or an appraiser-mind you the cost of purchasing the rights and the legalities are likely far larger than one would expect.

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

As Far as i know, George works for a company that has the "contract" to do the vintage services. I can't remember the name of the company now.
Does anyone else remember it? I think they had shirts at autofest in oshawa a few years back?????
But maybe i am totally wrong?????

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Not sure. The bills come from GM when we use them (GM Vintage Services) for key codes at work.

But that is still no guarantee it's not farmed out.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

beaumontguru wrote:

As Far as i know, George works for a company that has the "contract" to do the vintage services. I can't remember the name of the company now.
Does anyone else remember it? I think they had shirts at autofest in oshawa a few years back?????
But maybe i am totally wrong?????

I seem to remember something like that happening right around the time they started charging

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

67BBSD wrote:

or an appraiser-mind you the cost of purchasing the rights and the legalities are likely far larger than one would expect.

I think this would be a 6 figure proposition plus a lot of caveats attached. There is a lot of risk associatied with this fucntion. Without going into any details this information in the wrong hands has the potential to reap huge financial gain.

-- Edited by 73SC at 00:40, 2009-02-20

Ghost Post · Poncho Master!

67BBSD wrote:

Just a rumour at this point-but I was told today by a Toronto customer that GM plans to close its historical vehicle division as part of the cuts-I'll call George and ask for first hand input-this would be sad.

If true that's terrible news!.
Please keep us posted on what Geo says Ray..

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Vintage also does key codes for us and I can't imagine that being removed.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Vintage also does key codes for us and I can't imagine that being removed.

This makes sense to me now, that seems like an essential service so the functions are bundled making it a more feasible operation.

I never thought about getting George to do a search of the Fleetwood, Is there a restriction on year of car?

Velle Addict · Guru

I'm going to have to phone as well. I seemed to have "misplaced" my GM documentation for the Velle's when I moved. I hope they don't try to pull the plug on this too soon.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

73SC wrote:

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Vintage also does key codes for us and I can't imagine that being removed.

This makes sense to me now, that seems like an essential service so the functions are bundled making it a more feasible operation.

I never thought about getting George to do a search of the Fleetwood, Is there a restriction on year of car?

Do you mean for key codes or documents in general?

I can get you the build date, option list and some other misc info but after 10 years the warranty repair history goes "poof", up in smoke.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Do you mean for key codes or documents in general?

I can get you the build date, option list and some other misc info but after 10 years the warranty repair history goes "poof", up in smoke.

I meant the documentation. Can I PM the VIN to you?

-- Edited by 73SC at 21:51, 2009-02-20

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Velle Addict wrote:

I'm going to have to phone as well. I seemed to have "misplaced" my GM documentation for the Velle's when I moved. I hope they don't try to pull the plug on this too soon.

You moved ?