That car is so cool ! Say no to the new stock springs, I've seen way too many guys make that mistake. You might be able to find a new Hotchkiss set of 1 inch drop springs. They are a little heavier duty and will make it ride firmer. I put a set on the Camino and they were perfect.

What about a coil over shock in rear to keep the load level?

Thanks for the compliments on the stance. It does look about perfect but it's not practical. But I'd hate to spoil it with too high.

I have 255 60 16 T/A's. They rub their outer edge on the inside of the wheel well trim when I make a quick turn. If I'm braking and making a sharp turn, say like into a Hortons, they rub alarmingly! More so with 6 people!

Now the wheelwell trim edge actually could be persuaded back up into a tighter fit on the inside, up underneath where it can't be seen. It is away from the tub almost 1/2" in some spots up top. This is what catches the treadblocks as they come up and rotate forward and make contact with the trim. It's like a open blade and it's actually cutting the treadblocks. Maybe massaging the trim edge up into a 45 degree angle might just do it. I could live with some rubbing, jut not the cutting. Perhaps some new 235/60's front only?

If I could get the same factory spring rate, I'd be fine. Less sag with weight and a similar ride hight.

Rick, I'd say judging by your avtar shot, that stance looks correct, and mine seems just slightly low.

I'll get you some some height measurements.

Here's a picture of the 2+2 with 235 70's all around.



Springs ("stock" replacement who knows for sure) with approx 30,000 miles on them.

-- Edited by 67rag396 on Monday 3rd of May 2010 09:23:49 PM

You saw my car Mark and how high the front end sits since having the control arms done. You may not need springs.

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You saw my car Mark and how high the front end sits since having the control arms done. You may not need springs.

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         My thinking exactly Todd. New bushings might just bring it up a little bit. We'll see.

 

Hey Dave,
How's the Cat running? That sludge issue had me worried!

I did think of using poly, but for this car I've chosen oem rubber.

I want a tight ride, but logic tells me you'll get less bind and better suspension articulation with rubber. Maybe a little more shudder over sharp bumps and less precice in the corners, but it won't be as harsh on the flats. It's a cruiser after all. What I'm really after is less body lean. A huge ADDCO aftermarket front bar with poly bushings in combination with the rear bar and Bilstiens should make that possible.
Of course rubber won't last as long, but I'll not see that in another 43 years!

Cheers, Mark

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69Laurentian wrote:

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You saw my car Mark and how high the front end sits since having the control arms done. You may not need springs.

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         My thinking exactly Todd. New bushings might just bring it up a little bit. We'll see.

 

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when i redid my suspension stock f-41 big block i used all urathane from energy made a world of difference in there since 95 no sqeaks or groans .dont use those coilover shocks seems like a good idea but it puts to much stress on the upper shock mount and cracks it two cars with then including the wagon same problem use a air spring. and 275 55 15 fit on 8" trans am wheels just

 

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69Laurentian wrote:

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You saw my car Mark and how high the front end sits since having the control arms done. You may not need springs.

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         My thinking exactly Todd. New bushings might just bring it up a little bit. We'll see.

 

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when i redid my suspension stock f-41 big block i used all urathane from energy made a world of difference in there since 95 no sqeaks or groans .dont use those coilover shocks seems like a good idea but it puts to much stress on the upper shock mount and cracks it two cars with then including the wagon same problem use a air spring. and 275 55 15 fit on 8" trans am wheels just

 

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Bingo, I was wondering if anybody else used urathane bushings, I am that point where i am changing front sway bar bushings and end links was going with energy in black grease able front bushing, or stay stock delco

 

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I replaced one car with nos rubber and either our ozone is alot worse than 40 years ago but they didnt stand up, and redoing big block front springs is not on my to do list even with a spring compressor it took some burly MPs sitting on my fenders to get everything hooked up. dont put F-41 big block in anything it rides like a buckboard. now i know why they got rid of the car at 14thousand 

There is absolutely nothing by way of bushings in your suspension that can alter your ride height. You have an upper A arm and a lower control arm in the front separated by your coil spring. None of the bushing affect height, only the spring. In the rear its similiar, a spring mount on your axle and a spring pocket for the upper portion in the frame, separated by a spring. All of the bushings are isolaters and cushion the movement of your control arms; nothing to do with height. As for F41 suspensions riding rough, pure nonsense. I purchased these cars new with these suspensions as did friends with Chevs. and they always road incredibly well with unbelievable control in the corners and at speed; never harsh and we didn't have radial tires back then. As for poly bushings I considered them and researched a number of forums with respect to same. I read good and bad and I have talked to quite a few that have used them, mostly they liked them and felt they made the ride firm with good road feel. There were two reasons I went with rubber; one was that I really wanted the car original and secondly, and most importantly, when doing the rear you must use your old shells from your rubber bushings to install your new poly bushings into. I checked the Chev forums and sure enough most destroyed their 40 year old originals when they were attempting to remove their bushings. When I dismantled mine I at least was consistent with them, I absolutely destroyed the 40 year old bushings and shells they were held in. A few people wanted the poly enough to purchase new rubber bushings to get the new shells and then removed the rubber; not that easy either. In this way however, you have purchased two sets of bushings. The only concern I would have with using a F41 spring would be if you were using it with a small block as there is a considerable weight difference and as far as I am concerned the F41 was developed for use with big blocks only. This will likely cause some opposing views however it would take documentation to prove otherwise, not just looking under a car and finding a large front sway bar. By the way I tried a spring compressor on my new springs and couldn't get them compressed even close to enough. I took them in and had them compressed and banded, down to about 12", barely enough. Having the weight of a car over the control arms would make it easier, rather than a bare frame, as you would have something to put a floor jack under once the coil is partly in place on the lower control arm. You could then jack against the weight of the car until you can get the nuts on the ball joints. Once you get the ball joints snugged up you can cut the bands on the coils. It will still make you jump however its in the pocket with no place to go.