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Post Info TOPIC: Bought a welder and installed rocker panels on a 2001 Chev venture


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Bought a welder and installed rocker panels on a 2001 Chev venture


It cant be that hard right?  I have no welding experience and had no help, so I burned through a few spots and left splatter here and there. Gotta be the ugliest welds I've ever seen. I ended up with tons of tacks rather than a bead.  I played with temp and wire feed speed but without any good backing, I couldnt get a bead without burning through. I am just trying to get another year or two out of it.   If I had hired someone and this was the result, I'd be pissed. But the fit is excellent, and I can only get better, and I have my own welder, and my hands are well tanned. (I started with gloves, but soon took them off)  Its amazing how many things around the house need welding now!

I used to hire a 'professional' for almost everything, and if the welds were a safety issue, I would get a licenced welder to do it or inspect it afterwards. Now, I almost never hire anyone for anything. Its a great feeling to learn so many new skills and not get taken to the cleaners due to my ignorance.

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 Is it flux or gas? Makes a big difference as gas is the best! Also, if you are trying to tack them to a rust area, it is tough to do and it will spatter and burn through. Try to get to good metal and have it clean!!

 Good luck.....

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Thursday 21st of October 2010 11:42:57 AM

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Good deal!

I did the same thing about 1991 and never looked back. I don't know how I ever got along without that little mig.

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Actually, a series of tacks is exactly how you're supposed to do it .... just hop them about to avoid building up too much heat in one area and warping the panel. Trying to run a bead is a sure way to ruin it.

Just take a 4.5" grinder, put a 60 grit flap sanding disk on it and knock the tops off the weld tacks til it's nearly level. Make up the difference with some bondo (which will stick since you used 60 grit) and paint. Then drill a couple of holes in the top of the new rocker and have rust proofing sprayed inside to coat the back side of the welds or they'll rust through inside of one winter.

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If you aren't using gas it's very frustrating. Once you get gas, you'll love it!


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It can do both, but I dont have gas for it yet.  95% of the old panels were there, and I has great surfaces, I only cut away the affected areas. I'd love to try it with the gas shield. Thicker stock for a newbie would have been nice too. F


Prof - thanks for the rustproofing advice, I was wondering how that wasnt going to rust instantly. Its funny to me that I just ground the worst of the tips off, bondo'd the seam, painted it, and figured I had no clue what I was doing.

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Sometimes the obvious is the right choice.

If you want to go gas cheap, I got a tank from a CO2 supplier .... 10lbs liquid CO2 .. normally used for soda fountains or fire extinguishers. Lots cheaper than C25 and does the job well enough to run .025 wire. I suggest getting a dedicated CO2 regulator and flowmeter tho ... the C25/argon ones are designed for compressed gas only. When the liquid CO2 evaporates into gas, there's a serious temp drop ... and if the flow is high enough it'll ruin the regulator. The adapter to go from the CO2 tank valve to the C25/argon regulator that comes with more welders if a 3" length of brass tube to help mitigate the problem, but it doesn't completely solve it. And welding outside in the driveway, you need that extra gasflow.



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