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Howdy guys as far as we know the last time this engine was in this car was 1975. It is the one that came with the car.  (340 horse 4 speed) From 1975 to 2010 it was in a 55 GMC big back window shortwheelbase pickup

As of today it's back where it belongs!

Here are some pics including one of the bell housing that had to get welded after  we threw the driveshaft into the ditch during a particularly nasty 1st to 2nd shift in summer 75.

It may be running late tonight as my bro has the bottom end buttuned up and just needs to stick the rest of the top end stuff on like the waterpump, radiator, rebuilt carb, chrome goodies etc.  If that happens I will post the video on youtube and give you guys a link.

The one small indulgence he has allowed himself is to put the chrome 409 escutcheon on the fender where the V8 symbol was previously.  Pontiac should have done that in 65 but I guess they were just typical modest Canadians eh?


It'll be bad!

Cross your fiingers!

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Oh man, you're hurting me bad Ken!

409 and a stick car to boot....

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That is a rare piece. Look forward to seeing it when all done.

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Actually now that he's an old guy (as you can see from the picture) he's just plannng to run the rest of the bag off it  instead of actually restoring it.

He figures he won't live long enough to get to it with his other projects coming first (see his 55 Chevy below as an example) He was planning to leave what's left to his motorhead boys

As far as we know from the forum postings over the years this is the 2nd last 409 built car survivor that is out there.  Yeah I know I'm  bragging but, to give credit where credit is due, it if wasn't for this forum we would no  idea about this stuff.



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as a side note, much work for motor mounts to mount the 409 in the 55? i do have a 409 block and a 55 gmc

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I remember when you first told us about this car. It's awesome to see the motor back where it belongs! I too look forward to the video!

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Oh yeah, AND a factory tach too I see...

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65 409 Oct 10 5.JPG65 409 Oct10 3.JPG



65 409 emblem.JPG65 409 oct 10 4.JPG


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Its nice to think that this site has helped bring back some nice cars....

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Thanks for blowing up the pics carl.  I kind of like the last one.  It looks kind of sinister.

As for mounts in the 55 GMC I'll ask him how tough it was.  I'll take some of the now empty cavity in the truck  As I recall, it smoked the tires off real good but I wouldn't call it a handler.



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This is great Ken, can't wait to see this big block beast finished !

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66 Grande guy wrote:

Actually now that he's an old guy (as you can see from the picture) he's just plannng to run the rest of the bag off it  instead of actually restoring it.

He figures he won't live long enough to get to it with his other projects coming first (see his 55 Chevy below as an example) He was planning to leave what's left to his motorhead boys

As far as we know from the forum postings over the years this is the 2nd last 409 built car survivor that is out there.  Yeah I know I'm  bragging but, to give credit where credit is due, it if wasn't for this forum we would no  idea about this stuff.


Wonder how many in total are still around now?? Friend of mine has a 65  custom sport Rag 9er 4spd!!!! Documented at only 1 of 4 built!!!  he's on here occassionally but never posts anything, just "lurks" in the background!!!

 



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427carl wrote:

Its nice to think that this site has helped bring back some nice cars....


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dualquadpete wrote:

66 Grande guy wrote:

Actually now that he's an old guy (as you can see from the picture) he's just plannng to run the rest of the bag off it  instead of actually restoring it.

He figures he won't live long enough to get to it with his other projects coming first (see his 55 Chevy below as an example) He was planning to leave what's left to his motorhead boys

As far as we know from the forum postings over the years this is the 2nd last 409 built car survivor that is out there.  Yeah I know I'm  bragging but, to give credit where credit is due, it if wasn't for this forum we would no  idea about this stuff.


Wonder how many in total are still around now?? Friend of mine has a 65  custom sport Rag 9er 4spd!!!! Documented at only 1 of 4 built!!!  he's on here occassionally but never posts anything, just "lurks" in the background!!!

 


According to the good old Canadian Poncho registry we know of 4 survivors, three hardtops and a wagon and I guess one convertible for a total of 5.  There are probably more but we haven't  heard about them yet...

Ken

 



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Alright, its a big night!  It runs and  drives although when we first fired it up gas was leaking from a few spots and the flywheel was scraping on the bottom pan of the bell housing,  However a couple hours later after supper we went for a fine ride, even my wife!

What a time machine!   May have to actually retore it methinks!

Also my first upload to Youtube so here is the link with my mellow tones doing the narration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXxdwIxyyk

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Love it, love it and love it. A wonderful piece of Canadian automotive history. Wow i am so dumbfounded. A real 65 Poncho that came originally with a 409 and a four gear, i just want to scream. Your car sir, deserves a proper resto. Good luck with your fabulous automobile. I LOVE IT. Cheers. George.

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 Good show, Ken!!! Good show.....................

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Yeah I kind of wish it was mine (its my older brothers car)   Vince ya know what would really be cool is to have a little acceleration match between the one in Saskatchewan and this one one of these fine days.  Now that would be worth a you tube video!  For those who don't know there is a pratically identical car in Sask that was built later that this one.  (This one March 65 that one in April.)Those two together would be the last two 409 cars built that we have found so far.

Lets set it up!   I'll start talking trash to my brother about the other guy.  You can work on making you buddy in Saskatchwan mad.  We'll have em match off in Lloydminster.

Could be mucho fun!

I'll post some videos in the daylight as soon as I can.

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 1st of November 2010 11:11:35 PM

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i can see it now


https://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/javacougar/poncho/65_409.jpghttps://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae36/canadianponcho/100_4649.jpg

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66 Grande guy wrote:

Yeah I kind of wish it was mine (its my older brothers car)   Vince ya know what would really be cool is to have a little acceleration match between the one in Saskatchewan and this one one of these fine days.  Now that would be worth a you tube video!  For those who don't know there is a pratically identical car in Sask that was built later that this one.  (This one March 65 that one in April.)Those two together would be the last two 409 cars built that we have found so far.

Lets set it up!   I'll start talking trash to my brother about the other guy.  You can work on making you buddy in Saskatchwan mad.  We'll have em match off in Lloydminster.

Could be mucho fun!

I'll post some videos in the daylight as soon as I can.

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 1st of November 2010 11:11:35 PM


 (lol, lol) Maybe oldsledguy will see this post and no trash talk needed!!! I am sure no twisting of the arm would be needed! And actually, I think a gentle push through the gears would be quite, quite fun............ Woo-hoo........ 

 

For those of you that have not seen this particular thread.............

http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=118110&p=3&topicID=31364018&page=1





-- Edited by 67Poncho on Monday 1st of November 2010 11:45:36 PM

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What about that black 65 409 car in the Toronto area that was originally sold in Sask?  Make it a 3 way race.

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Love it!!!

That is such a cool piece of CP history right there.

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Great to hear the car up & running.

I think a (3) car challenge in heats like the finals on Pinks.  biggrin



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Clint, i also remember a non original green, 65 Pontiac that was an original 409 car. I just do not remember what tranny this car had. The car did the Toronto area outdoor car show circuit a number of years ago. The car had a bit of a rough body on it, with poor body work. The green looked like a Canadian tire spray bomb color. BUT, BUT, IT WAS AN ORIGINAL 409 PONTIAC and most of us know this was the last 409. Being a Canadian 409 and being the last year makes it so much more special. I have not seen this car around the shows here for awhile. This tells me that possibly some smart dude is restoring this car to its previous glory. Because it would deserve it. CANADIAN AUTOMOTIVE HISTORY is important people. Cheers. George.

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I have not seen a black or green 409 65 in the Toronto area either and you all know I would have taken a photo of it if I had. Now, We do know a black 64 Custom Sport.

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