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Can anyone remind me please who sold Envoy cars and vans in Canada? Was it Pontiac-Buick or Chevrolet-Olds dealers? Whichever it was, the other sold Vauxhalls. The first, 1959 I think, Envoy Epic was a FA series Vauxhall Victor that was 'breathed-on' by GM's head of Pontiac design Paul W. Gillan in Warren, Michigan. It was basically in response to a request from 'the other' dealers that that sold Vauxhalls. In the States Opels and Vauxhall Victors were sold by Buick dealers.

Also has anyone got a shot please of the Envoy EA van, which was the revised version of the BEDFORD CA vans sold by whomever sold Vauxhalls? This is what they looked like in 1960-on form with the new style front end that replaced the origjnal 1953-on pressed steel slats.

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1122433092053851689TcqtQA

 



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Yes, it was Pontiac-Buick dealers, at least in my hometown that's who had them.

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what an ugly little beast?

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I have a couple of old Epic brochures from Pontiac dealers. U.S. Buick dealers sold the German Opel  Kadett, Manta and GT; in Canada Pontiac-Buick dealers sold the British Epic / Envoy plus maybe the odd Opel GT.

I also remember sending my dad out to get the 1971 Chevrolet brochures. Among the haul was a 1970 Vauxhall Viva / Victor brochure with a Viva GT on the cover (only seen one and that was when it was new). I traded that brochure for a 1971 Porsche 911 brochure.



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Viva GTs are supremely rare now..the HB version. This had the 2-litre ohc four that was used in the FD Victor.

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Didn't the Z/28 302 find its way into the car in some markets as well, South Africa and Australia maybe?



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73SC wrote:

Didn't the Z/28 302 find its way into the car in some markets as well, South Africa and Australia maybe?


 Yes, in South Africa. Called a Firenza I believe.

 



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Here's a link to a street version. Most of them were race cars.

http://forums.autosport.com/lofiversion/index.php/t107107.html



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Here is a couple of tags that I took...............

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 There was no tag on this one.............

 

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Wow...an Envoy version of the Vauxhall FD Victor Estate with the Ventora 3300cc six front grille. |I had no idea that they existed!

The Vauxhall plate appears to be off a Vauxhall PA Cresta, model PASX.

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 Here is a tag that will seem to go against the grain...............

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Here are the rest of the pics I have for the wagon.............

 

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there is a Firenza and a Vauxhaul next door at Big Steve's .....how rare is that ??

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This is either a Viva or Epic. Note the triple tail lights.



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Those Envoy Sherwood wagon tail-lenses almost look like they'd fit '66 Chevelle/Beaumonts?.

I'm the fool that keeps posting about the Firenza 302 CanAms here as they're another of my bucket-list dream cars!.
Here's a couple pics I've posted here before..

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How many of teh 100 V8 Firenza's have survived as I am sure most were race cars ?



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Those Envoy Sherwood wagon tail-lenses almost look like they'd fit '66 Chevelle/Beaumonts?.

I'm the fool that keeps posting about the Firenza 302 CanAms here as they're another of my bucket-list dream cars!.
Here's a couple pics I've posted here before..

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CanAm Firenza 9419.jpg

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 now "that" is one cool little car! imagine one of those, tubbed, with a cage, and a big block? i think i want one nowconfuse

 



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Weighing in at about 2500 lbs, I think it would be a handfull with the high reving 302.



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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Yes, it was Pontiac-Buick dealers, at least in my hometown that's who had them.


 In Sherbrooke Quebec too ...

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In reference to 67 Poncho's pic of the dealer tag, my brother bought a new Epic GT here in Bridgewater NS from Hebb Motors, a Chev Olds dealer.
There was also a Pontiac Buick dealer in town at the time. His car was a 69 or 70 as far as I can remember. There were a number to choose from and he bought a blue
with matt black hood and redish stripes. I'll try and find a pic.

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rabbit64cs wrote:

there is a Firenza and a Vauxhaul next door at Big Steve's .....how rare is that ??


 Here's the Firenza:

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Big Steve said, "And the last one isn't a Pontiac, but it really looks like one so I put it in here. It's a 71 Firenza. Sold by GM in the early 70's. That one is for sale too."



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67Poncho wrote:

 Here is a tag that will seem to go against the grain...............

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 Uh-oh  confuse     evileye

 



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67Poncho wrote:

 Here is a tag that will seem to go against the grain...............

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 Uh-oh  confuse     evileye

 


 Hey??? What is this evileye about???? (lol) I found this pic at the last moment and I too was thinking, hmmmmm????

 



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rofl.gif I just figured it was time I turned the tables and gave YOU a hard time for a change!!!

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