Front coils

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Front coils

1965CS · Guru

I figured "mooge" would be the best bet for closest to original, just don't know where to get them here. I know NAPA and AutoValue have their own brand. I bought a set of NAPA for the rear and they are very stiff, but ok for adding trunk weight.

Great chart! Number 3953915 Moog #6322 I assume 66 would work for 65 too..... confuse

-- Edited by 1965CS on Monday 2nd of April 2012 03:26:39 PM

1965CS · Guru

427carl wrote:
Auto Value in Calgary sells Moog brand

Should be #6322

Calling now....

Asked for Impala sport convert,....

They came up with part # 6304 which may be the heavier one.. confuse

-- Edited by 1965CS on Monday 2nd of April 2012 04:17:49 PM

1965CS · Guru

Looking for leads on where to purchase new front coils for my 65 convert, sbc.

Is it true that repro's are stiffer than originals? .... really don't want a rigid ride disbelief

1965CS · Guru

Part numbers would be great, thanks. But would that be a Car Quest number?.... don't think we have them here....

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I went with a set of Moog 6194's on my SB 67 Grande. Got about .5" extra ride hight (the stock springs were sagging anyway). Stiffer, but not too much so. By the numbers, they're a match for the 67 F40 CQ code SB spring. I'd say they'd probably work well in any SB 65-70 Cp. Got them through Carquest.

A chart I made up when searching for springs....

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Perfect.... your the man....great chart...

I have a friend needing a set as well

I will just march in and present the numbers

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

1965CS wrote:
I figured "mooge" would be the best bet for closest to original, just don't know where to get them here. I know NAPA and AutoValue have their own brand. I bought a set of NAPA for the rear and they are very stiff, but ok for adding trunk weight.
Great chart! I assume 67 would work for 65 too.....

your profile says you live in Canada must be a Car Quest close??

1965CS · Guru

Ya, in south Alberta. I googled it with no luck on locations out this way.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Hang on I'll try to get cross over number

68 427 · Poncho Master!

I JUST LOOKED IT UP TOO. NONE WEST OF ONT. cry

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Auto Value in Calgary sells Moog brand

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Some thoughts..

From the GM Canada Master Parts Catalogue, the 1965 chart tells me that the same CF code (3864719) spring I had stock in my 67, would be the same spring in the Standard Parisienne 764(-67) series car with 327. Now if you go over to 1966 in the book, the Custom Sport 766(-67) with 327 gets a 3864720 spring when F40 HD suspension is ordered, as long as C60 (air) is not specified.

My take is your Custom Sport is just a little heavier than the Standard 1965/66 convertible, and the 66 F40 Custom sport got the spring I'm using now. It works well in my car and it's as good as the specified HD spring for yours.

Stay with the 3864719, Moog 6194. Don't risk the 6322.

1965CS · Guru

cdnpont wrote:
Some thoughts..
From the GM Canada Master Parts Catalogue, the 1965 chart tells me that the same CF code (3864719) spring I had stock in my 67, would be the same spring in the Standard Parisienne 764(-67) series car with 327. Now if you go over to 1966 in the book, the Custom Sport 766(-67) with 327 gets a 3864720 spring when F40 HD suspension is ordered, as long as C60 (air) is not specified.
My take is your Custom Sport is just a little heavier than the Standard 1965/66 convertible, and the 66 F40 Custom sport got the spring I'm using now. It works well in my car and it's as good as the specified HD spring for yours.
Stay with the 3864719, Moog 6194. Don't risk the 6322.

Thanks for the great info! So what about the #6304?

Lefty · Uber Guru

Try Lordco..

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I'm sure Auto Value in Calgary can get Moog parts.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

1965CS wrote:
cdnpont wrote:
Some thoughts..
From the GM Canada Master Parts Catalogue, the 1965 chart tells me that the same CF code (3864719) spring I had stock in my 67, would be the same spring in the Standard Parisienne 764(-67) series car with 327. Now if you go over to 1966 in the book, the Custom Sport 766(-67) with 327 gets a 3864720 spring when F40 HD suspension is ordered, as long as C60 (air) is not specified.
My take is your Custom Sport is just a little heavier than the Standard 1965/66 convertible, and the 66 F40 Custom sport got the spring I'm using now. It works well in my car and it's as good as the specified HD spring for yours.
Stay with the 3864719, Moog 6194. Don't risk the 6322.

Thanks for the great info! So what about the #6304?

Thanks for the heads up The 6304 is what my friend will need for a BB with a/c

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

No listing for CG code 3862967 in1965. In 66 it shows up as a standard spring to be used in -57/-69 cars (2Dr HT/4Dr Sedan) with 396 engine , Note "A" - no Air (C60) (air), Taxi (B02,3), Police (Z04) or HD Suspension (F40/1).

Although the specs look pretty smallblock, the 2200 lb load and the 396 would keep me away from it. Probably a nose high situation with that one.

LandShark68_2+2 · Guru

Thanks for the great info! So what about the #6304?

I believe #6304's are for big block cars.

Scott

poncho62 · Poncho Master!

NAPA part numbers

NCP 2773220
Coil Spring - Front 1 178.29

Comment: w/o Air Conditioning

NCP 2773221
Coil Spring - Front 1 184.83

Comment: w/o Air Conditioning Heavy Duty

NCP 2771828
Coil Spring - Front 1 187.72

Comment: Heavy Duty w/ Air Conditioning

NCP 2771929
Coil Spring - Front 1 174.10

Comment: w/ Air Conditioning

NCP 2771170
Coil Spring - Front 1 243.23
Submodel:SS;
Comment: w/ Air Conditioning

1965CS · Guru

cdnpont wrote:
Some thoughts..
From the GM Canada Master Parts Catalogue, the 1965 chart tells me that the same CF code (3864719) spring I had stock in my 67, would be the same spring in the Standard Parisienne 764(-67) series car with 327. Now if you go over to 1966 in the book, the Custom Sport 766(-67) with 327 gets a 3864720 spring when F40 HD suspension is ordered, as long as C60 (air) is not specified.
My take is your Custom Sport is just a little heavier than the Standard 1965/66 convertible, and the 66 F40 Custom sport got the spring I'm using now. It works well in my car and it's as good as the specified HD spring for yours.
Stay with the 3864719, Moog 6194. Don't risk the 6322.

Thanks for the info and chart. Moog are available thru Autovalue so with that, I will try to get a set of #6194's. Hopefully this will solve some issues.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

My age is telling...

I meant stick with the 3864720, moog 6194.

Not 3864719...

65wagon · Poncho Master!

1965CS wrote:
cdnpont wrote:
Some thoughts..
From the GM Canada Master Parts Catalogue, the 1965 chart tells me that the same CF code (3864719) spring I had stock in my 67, would be the same spring in the Standard Parisienne 764(-67) series car with 327. Now if you go over to 1966 in the book, the Custom Sport 766(-67) with 327 gets a 3864720 spring when F40 HD suspension is ordered, as long as C60 (air) is not specified.
My take is your Custom Sport is just a little heavier than the Standard 1965/66 convertible, and the 66 F40 Custom sport got the spring I'm using now. It works well in my car and it's as good as the specified HD spring for yours.
Stay with the 3864719, Moog 6194. Don't risk the 6322.

Thanks for the info and chart. Moog are available thru Autovalue so with that, I will try to get a set of #6194's. Hopefully this will solve some issues.

i thought that car looked familiar. does it have power windows and came from a guy by devon

1965CS · Guru

65wagon wrote:
i thought that car looked familiar. does it have power windows and came from a guy by devon

If you mean my car, no. Does have PW, but I bought it in Calgary and it was actually originally sold by Stampede Pontiac too.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I finally had a few minutes to go through my files. When I put the 454 in the 70 2+2 convertible, it really dropped the nose.

I bought a used set of springs out of a 70 Laurentian in Pick-n-pull, but also bought a set of Moog 6322 springs from Auto Value that I had installed.

So, Moog 6322 springs will be too stiff for your small-block.

Also, I made the tools shown in the shop manual to do the change (metal bar and triangular block of wood), but I decided not to risk it. I had my springs changed (and upper contol arm bushings) at Standens here in Calgary.

-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Friday 6th of April 2012 05:02:36 PM