Carl. I'd be interested in why you're beating up on Fram.

I've cut open Fram filters to compare a number of times and unless they've changed them in the last couple of years, they are likely one of the worst made filters on the market. The paper inside is not supported properly and collapses which allows the oil just to flow right through without being filtered.

I never used to say to much because I thought it was just me but then I saw someone who had serious issues with a Fram (and he posted pics) on another forum a few years back. I can't recall for sure but I am thinking it was a 455 Pontiac engine.

I'll see if I can find that thread.

It's a lot of fun cutting open old filters and comparing quality. If you've never done it, I highly recommend it. It can be a real eye opener.

My computer is giving me a bit of grief and I can't get the forum to open where I saw his thread. I'll try to get it, because he had perfect pictures of the failure.

I like AC Delco, Wix, NAPA (which is made by Wix).

I'm assuming you mean the PF932. Yes, easy to get, we stock them because there's still a number of farmers out here running 366 or 427 grain trucks and that's the original filter on them.

Carl Stevenson wrote:

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I'm assuming you mean the PF932. Yes, easy to get, we stock them because there's still a number of farmers out here running 366 or 427 grain trucks and that's the original filter on them.

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         Car Quest use  85794 number which is Wix in their blue line    Napa Gold is 1794  and Wix is 51794 as well   

Carl Stevenson wrote:

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 we stock them

 

because there's still a number of farmers out here running 366 or 427 grain trucks and that's the original filter on them.

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         Wow   Farmers with big blocks !!!   Did they keep them locked in Barns when you were younger??????? 

And for those who don't want to do all that reading, here's what happens to the Frams.

427carl wrote:

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

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 we stock them

 

because there's still a number of farmers out here running 366 or 427 grain trucks and that's the original filter on them.

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         Wow   Farmers with big blocks !!!   Did they keep them locked in Barns when you were younger??????? 

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I bought up a lot of them as they "expired", don't worry!

many threads on other car sites about fram....

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/fram-filters-nightmare-story.295635/

 

i use the truck 51794 wix filter, plug the bypass on all my engines

wix makes the napa gold and carguess filters

the older white ac delco filters were made by wix, newer blue filters are made by champion labs

-- Edited by 2drpost on Saturday 11th of April 2015 08:15:42 AM

you guys actually chagne the oil in your cars....

 

I should do that someday ..

I 'll share an experience I had with aftermarket oil filters a while back. I have an 06 Sierra with the 5.3. I have always used Mobil 1 Synth. but one time I changed to Pennzoil Synth. when Walmart had it on sale for a great price. I also purchased 2 oil filters from them at the same time. I believe they were Purolator. After changing the oil & filter I noticed a pretty good drop in oil pressure. Thinking it to be the oil I changed back to Mobil 1 and installed the other Walmart filter. Same thing- oil pressure lower than usual.I then took it to Melnyk's ( GM dealership) to have the oil pressure verified in case it was an indication problem. The mechanic approached me after noticing the filter. He asked me if he could change it to an Ac Delco and then we'll look at the oil pressure. FIXED! Oil pressure back to normal. Apparently they have experienced failures of some aftermarket filters where the paper disintegrated and plugged some passages causing engine failure. His next question was why buy an aftermarket filter when we can sell you an AC Delco for almost the same price? That is all I use now.