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head liner installation


could  anybody  say   what would  be  the  average cost  to install a head liner  a local shop  arroud  here   is  asking  me  600  to  800   to  install it nononono

so  if  you  figure  a 100  $   an  hour  it  would  be  up  to  8  hours  ????  to  do the job ???

 

i think  i shoud  shop arround  a bit  more



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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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I had a headliner professionally installed a quite a few years ago in my 70 Chevelle. If I remember correctly it cost me $200 for the install.

The 600 - 800 seems to be high and I agree you should shop around for a comparison.



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Thats highway robbery 83, for that kind of money you can buy yourself brand new headliner and bows (if needed) and install yourself, its quite straight forward, only couple hours to install, not 6-8. 6-8 for headliner, carpets, door panels and put seats back.

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so a realistic figure would be 300 to 400

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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Shop here in Port Perry charges close to $800. friend down the street did his own, 2 person job & took him a whole wknd. to do it!!!! Not an easy job by any means!!!!!

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I installed my headliner, sail panels and trim by myself in a couple hours, if that. Free. Sure isn't a two man job. The only way I'd pay someone is if it was custom made.

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in fact my headliner is fine except for one seam that came a part needs to be sewn could this be fixed because the rest of the head liner is fine

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 

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Absolutely, but I wouldn't take it to upholstery shop, I'd go to upholstery shop and tell guy what you are doing, even show him, ut all i would get from guy is the thread, heavy nylon, and stitch that one seam by hand using the existing holes, upholstery guy machine most likely won't line up. 83 I would put headliner in yourself, start first bow at first section closest to rear window and work towards windshield, there's a choice of three holes per section that bow goes into, each side of car, start with middle hole if you can't see where bow was originally set. The bow just clips onto the roof in the middle. Now check the excess material that goes to rear window, that fold needs to line up again,unclip bow and move bow forward or back in those holes. The rest of headliner a cake wake from there. Install the dome light and coat hooks last. While your headliner is out, check your roof insulation, replace if necessary, it keeps condensation from forming and dripping water on headliner during cold days.

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good idea Indian thank you for the interesting tips

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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You are most welcome, pretty easy eh, now imagine paying the guy 6-800 to do that, makes ya mad eh, highway robbery. Tha5 insulation is important to be there, if its not looking good replace it, if car doesn't have it, put it in, not only does it help control condensation from ruining your interior, trust me it will and you won't know until you pull rear seat and see mold and nasties everywhere, it will act as a sound deadner too. The plastic window to headliner seals are being reproduced if yours are deteriorated by the sun, the come in black paint to match, not a cheap kit for pieces of plastic, but at least they're available

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Louis
I agree with the comments regarding the installation of a headliner,  but for stretching and gluing the material to the rail,

instead of many people and many hands , the tool of choice is a paper Clip. Use the small ones they provide the best clamp effect.

Good luck with your project

Dale

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Indian wrote:

You are most welcome, pretty easy eh, now imagine paying the guy 6-800 to do that, makes ya mad eh, highway robbery. Tha5 insulation is important to be there, if its not looking good replace it, if car doesn't have it, put it in, not only does it help control condensation from ruining your interior, trust me it will and you won't know until you pull rear seat and see mold and nasties everywhere, it will act as a sound deadner too. The plastic window to headliner seals are being reproduced if yours are deteriorated by the sun, the come in black paint to match, not a cheap kit for pieces of plastic, but at least they're available


 that s another  issue.....i  looked  arround  for  those   and  they   are available  for  120.00  a set i  have to find  the  side trim  for  the  head liner  also

i need to  find  a supplier  to  get  the  right  paint  for the trim (  my  interior  is  fawn )    like  i was  saying  in the  last  thread   ,  the  actual  head liner  is  in  good shape  except for  that 1  seam  that  is  un sewn   so  i could  remove  it   have it  sewn  and............ reinstall it

by  the  way  my  int  door panels   are  ordered  from  S M S   should  get them  before  chrismasbiggrin  they  will be  my  gift from me to the  Beaumont



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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 

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DEJ wrote:

Louis
I agree with the comments regarding the installation of a headliner,  but for stretching and gluing the material to the rail,

instead of many people and many hands , the tool of choice is a paper Clip. Use the small ones they provide the best clamp effect.

Good luck with your project

Dale

Clip 101.jpg


that would  be  to  clamp it  to  the  side  i imagine  and  arroud  the  back window 



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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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Alana at advanced coatings here in Calgary can reproduce interior factory colors in spray can for you. Search "interior paint" in search box, whole thread on interior paint. SMS is world leader in interiors, the door panels they send you I'm betting will be from lemans gto, same panel as Beaumont except they are a little bit wider and will need to be modified, easy enough.

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ok i will contact eventuallt Alana to get a spray bomb ( fawn ) my panels are the exact same as the chevelle 300

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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She has all manufacturer paint chips, samples and codes, interior and exterior as far back as early 40s, she uses ppg paint. All I did was go to Lowe's home depot etc got paint sample cards and matched it up to interior then send her the card, she'll photograph and analyze its make up and duplicate it for you into the spray can and mail it to you. Please use proper breathing mask, the paint is strong, brutal, smells like it has lacquer in it.

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since 1983 wrote:

i need to  find  a supplier  to  get  the  right  paint  for the trim (  my  interior  is  fawn )    

 

Car Quest can mix it any time.....



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If you find yourself getting small wrinkles in headliner you can warm up material (in wrinkle area with) your wifes blow dryer and pull tight. When material cools and shrinks it will be tighter and wrinkles wont come back.

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www.youtube.com/watch

www.youtube.com/watch

I did 3 of these for cars that I own/owned and 4 for friends now. Not difficult, not easy. Takes me about 2 nights to do them correctly and tight. Thought this was the better of most of the "How To" videos. I know it is not the same car, but the basics apply. Lots of others found on youtube also.

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well i have some real good news that make this task a lot easier

like i was saying on this thread the headliner its self is in good shape and the seam that needs repair is the last one by the rear window so what there is to do is just take donw that part maybe to the next seam and simply sew it . then put back that section in place

i just have to figure out if i have to remove the sail panels for this operation , i want to dismantle the less possible

Indian and the other s who helped me on this one , do you have any advice on a very partial headliner removal and reinstall

thanks !

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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Take entire headliner out and fix seam properly, the headliner is only clipped into place. Headliner is old and fragile, it will start to tear if you leave it in and try stitching it, tug here tug there now you have a hole. Sail panels are clipped into place.

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As Indian says take out the whole headliner. Clean and paint bows so you don't get any rust bleed through. Some headliners have a master bow in the middle that don't float. Start by hooking bows at the back and work towards center then attach master bow in center, once this is attached to roof work your way to the back again pulling tight as you go. Master bow will not move since it is attached directly to roof but rest of bows can move until tight. Measure headliner and put pencil mark in middle on back side then mark center of roof, this will help make sure you have same amount of material on each side. Don't know if this is the right way to do it but it's the way I've done a couple and worked out fine with no wrinkles.smile

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  the  actual  head liner  is  in  good shape  except for  that 1  seam  that  is  un sewn   so  i could  remove  it   have it  sewn  and............ reinstall it

 


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i would attemps taking down the last 16 or 18 inches and checking out if it can be sewn in place first......

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1967  BEAUMONT   2 DOOR  POST  ALL NEW  283

1965  CHEV  BEL AIR   230   3 SPEED

I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.

I HAVE  THIS THING  FOR  A 4 DOOR 65  BISCAYNE  6 CYL  STD  DONT KNOW  WHY ?

 

 



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since 1983 wrote:

i would attemps taking down the last 16 or 18 inches and checking out if it can be sewn in place first......


 Louis, sounds like a smart move. If it's in that good of shape, I'd try to save it, and save some $$$ also. Even if you have to take the whole headliner out, it just might need the seam stitching reinforced throughout. Hopefully the fabric isn't weak.



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