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'65 409?


 

About 25 years ago, my brother had a 1965 Parisienne with a 409. 

Can't find any pics of the car, he only had it for a short while, but I distinctly remember the 409 engine.  It was also a 4 speed.

Don't know whatever happened to it.

Was the 409 carried over into early '65?

 



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Yes....the 396 was a mid year thing in 65 in Canada. They used up the left over 409s ....a member here has a Parisienne with a 409


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poncho62 wrote:

....a member here has a Parisienne with a 409


 2 members for sure...

 

March23rd 1965  76637      409ci           A      (black int.)   Alberta link
Custom Sport2dr hrdtp    M20    Tuxedo Black    66grandguy

 

April 1965      76437      409ci                  K     (turquoise)   Ontario     link
Parisienne 2dr hrdtp   M20   Artesian Turquoise

 

April 19th 1965 76637     409ci          A        (285 red)    Saskatchewan    link
#761551    Custom Sport 2dr hrdtp   M20   Tuxedo Black   %%   Oldsledguy

 

 



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Wednesday 10th of February 2016 06:19:50 PM

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http://www.canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t24091400/the-last-409-pontiac/?page=1&sort=oldestFirst



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No 396 in 65 in Canadian Pontiacs as far as we know...

 

1965 Pontiac 

65Pontiacengines-1.jpg



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Whats really cool about what we have found out is that the very last 409 cars were Canadian.  My bro currently owns the March 1965 409 4 speed car  already mentioned so I have actually seen and driven one that was produced after the americans made the switchover.



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With sales being low on the big blocks in Canada back then, plus the amount of effort to change things mid-year, well I wouldn't at all be surprised if Oshawa sat on a few pallets of 409s to be picked away at until the 1965 build-out. I mean, so few Custom Sports were built with the 340-horse 409.

In Canada it looks like for 1965, unlike the U.S.: the 220-horse 283 didn't reappear, the TH400 didn't appear, the 396 didn't appear (not until 1966). Now  the H.D. 3-speed manual was in the 1965 Canadian Pontiac brochure as an upgrade option on the 327s over the Saginaw, and a minimum mandatory item with the 409s. That particular h.d. 3-speed was a mid-year addition (I think) and was a Warner T-13 (much like a cast iron early T-10 4-speed in design).

In the 7 years since that reference post was created I still haven't seen any evidence to support the switch to the Mark IV big block from the W-motor on Canadian 65s. In that old post our late lamented friend Hillar made the point about why Chevrolet wanted to get the Mark IV into production ASAP from a racing point of view. In Canada we didn't have the same racing sanctioning bodies so the business case for making major mid-year changes just wasn't there.



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