Big Block oil change sticker

davepl · Poncho Master!

Big Block oil change sticker

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

On a '68 Parisienne 327 car.

Look to the driver's side:

Close up:

davepl · Poncho Master!

I know, but I guess I've always seen them on the driver side of small block cars, but only have that one big block with the oil sticker on the passenger side. On DWach's 2+2 it's on the driver side as is the hood light.

On a 427 Caprice I have photos of the hood light moves, but no sticker.

So I've got evidence of one of each on the big block, but no idea which is right. I'm surprised the white 2+2 427 4-speed car has it all on the driver side, but its a well documented car, so presume it's original.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

For 1970 Canadian Pontiac's, both small block or big block, I've only seen the underhood light on the drivers side. Same with the oil change stickers stickers. However, I've heard the sticker on the big block cars should be upside down, so it can be easily read from the passenger side. I haven't seen any evidence of the upside down sticker though.

68 427 · Poncho Master!

THE STICKER ON MY '68 427 GP IS ON THE PASSENGER SIDE.

davepl · Poncho Master!

Does anyone know if there were ever Canadian-specific assembly manuals? The workers in the factory had to have some reference for stuff like this. I doubt they used the Impala book, but I've sure never seen a Canadian one. What a gold mine that would be of potential info though!

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

I have an almost complete collection of GM assembly manuals on microfiche, from early 60's into the 80's. However I have been unable to find an affordable functioning microfiche viewer/printer combo to print them off, and I doubt that I can legally make copies and sell them anyway. To just do it as a hobby and give them away would be horribly time consuming and expensive, so here I sit with my little viewer and these manuals! I use them often to look stuff up, they are great.

I'd love to find a reliable affordable viewer printer combo, as well as find out if I can legally make copies (I suspect not)

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:
I have an almost complete collection of GM assembly manuals on microfiche, from early 60's into the 80's. However I have been unable to find an affordable functioning microfiche viewer/printer combo to print them off, and I doubt that I can legally make copies and sell them anyway. To just do it as a hobby and give them away would be horribly time consuming and expensive, so here I sit with my little viewer and these manuals! I use them often to look stuff up, they are great.

I'd love to find a reliable affordable viewer printer combo, as well as find out if I can legally make copies (I suspect not)

How big are the microfiche sheets or are they the roll type.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Normal fiche cards Darryl.

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:
Normal fiche cards Darryl.

How would a scanner work ... I know, time consuming.

davepl · Poncho Master!

I would seriously consider paying for a commercial microfiche scanning service (google it, 10 came up first try!) if there's a manual specific to 69 Canadian Pontiacs. Of course Carl would have to loan them out for that, and we'd have to split the cost amongst interested individuals.

I'm pretty sure GM hasn't exerted copyright even against the lucrative US versions, so I think they simply don't care. There's no profit to be made, and they're not of other interest to them, I guess.

67Poncho · Uber Guru

davepl wrote:
One thing I noticed about big block cars is that the hood light, if equipped, moves to follow the dipstick. So a big block car should have it on the passenger side.
On one original car I've seen the oil change sticker moves to that side as well, but I don't know if that's a correct detail or not - did the factory really bother to move the sticker based on big/small block?
Thanks,
Dave

-- Edited by davepl on Friday 4th of March 2016 04:13:34 PM

My '70 LS4 Estate... Both the hood lamp and oil change sticker are on the drivers side...

'70 Estate Underhood.JPG

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I think the fender aprons look better with a stickers removed and nice shiny paint

67Poncho · Uber Guru

427carl wrote:
I think the fender aprons look better with a stickers removed and nice shiny paint

I did too until I started to find original untouched cars... not the usual rusted out cars we see in the Middle East and East of that...

Here's a different twist... did they know that this skirt was going on a BB or SB car? Was it random off the line as in pick and install? This label was obviously on the skirt before assembly....

'70 Estate Underhood Oil Change Label.JPG

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-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 2nd of April 2016 09:47:36 AM

davepl · Poncho Master!

Good point, but then that begs the question of how they ever had them on the passenger side but never on both!

67Poncho · Uber Guru

davepl wrote:
Good point, but then that begs the question of how they ever had them on the passenger side but never on both!

Just the '69 and '70's? I will check the fleet as I go along..

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 2nd of April 2016 01:03:24 PM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

I just found this in the 69 Beaumont assembly manual.

Not sure if you can read at the top of the page but it says right fender skirt with 396, left fender skirt with 307, 350.

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dcneric · Poncho Master!

My 396 69 2+2 does not appear to have decal on the drivers/left side.

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

67Poncho wrote:
427carl wrote:
I think the fender aprons look better with a stickers removed and nice shiny paint
I did too until I started to find original untouched cars... not the usual rusted out cars we see in the Middle East and East of that...
Here's a different twist... did they know that this skirt was going on a BB or SB car? Was it random off the line as in pick and install? This label was obviously on the skirt before assembly....

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-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 2nd of April 2016 09:47:36 AM

I'm not sure if I understand the question Vince. I've never seen a 1970 Cdn Pontiac with the oil change sticker on the passenger side, and I'm pretty sure the 1970 stickers are the same whether they're big block or small block.

North · Guru

Her's a question;

Why did they put the decal and the light on different sides of the engine bay depending on engine type, was it related to the location of the dipstick and or oil fill cap?

davepl · Poncho Master!

The dipstick is on the other side for a big block. A few "in the day" big block cars I saw had the light on the passenger side, where the dipstick is. So I concluded that the light follows the dipstick. Then a 396 car turned up with the oil change sticker on the passenger side too.

That's about all I know. I guess I could dig through the Impala assembly manual to see what it says about the hood light, but the sticker is a Canada-only sticker.

The 69 Beaumont assembly manual would seem to agree with my strange theories though

-- Edited by davepl on Monday 19th of December 2016 12:19:15 PM

North · Guru

Given the close pedigree an impala assembly manual could be quite useful