Welcome here John.

Once you've spent some time here, you'll want to sell all those US models and focus on the unique Canadian Pontiacs! (Kidding, of course...)

Well since you've already seen the 2+2 on this forum here is a bit on my American Ponchos;

I picked up this Firebird in San Diego about 6 years ago from the second owner.  It's a Sprint 6 with a 4 speed and no power accessories expect ironically a power antenna.

Here is one of my GP's, an SJ with typical southern options like auto, AC, PW etc.  Got this one owner car in Los Angeles in 2007.  exceptionally original condition including paint (which looks nicer in the picture than in person). 

Last year I bought this Catalina from a dealer in Missouri.  It has an old repaint from the 70's but otherwise unrestored.  it has the 428-360 horse engine, automatic and AC.  Nice cruiser.

Welcome aboard John. Only 10 more Canadian Pontiac's to go! I love the Ventura wagon and Bonneville Brougham convertible.

I've always been an American Pontiac guy because of GTO's and to be honest I always thought of Canadiac Pontiacs as not being "real" due to the absence of a Pontiac, engine chassis or interior. Even more so the beaumonts etc which don't even have a Pontiac looking body. Not that they aren't nice looking, just that I don't relate them to being Pontiacs.

One thing I'm looking forward too is understanding exactly what changes were made to the Pontiac body to fit it to a Impala chassis. I noticed the rad support, fire wall, inner fenders are completely different so I suspect there isn't much interchangeability even in outer sheet metal. The wipers are quite different, parallel on Canadian cars and opposing on American cars hence the different hood.

A particular thing perplexes me, can't wait to get a tape measure on the 2+2. The Canadian car is listed as having a shorter wheelbase than the Catalina 119 vs 122 but overall length is listed as the same for both; 217.5. How can that be?

The difference between the Bonneville and the Catalina is a further 3" of wheelbase up to 125 and overall length grows 6.5" thanks to an additional 3" of rear overhang (the last 1/2" is the rubber rear bumper insert). The interior dimensions of the Bonneville are identical to the Cat, so the only benefit of those 6" is in the trunk.

Nice collection of Pontiacs. I parted out a 69 Grand Prix and have a few things left rad support, fan shroud, front and rear bumpers and I kept the 428 370 turbo 400 combination for one of my projects. Is your SJ a 370 or 390 hp ?

Al

Here is my Bonneville 4door hardtop, original paint, will need paint one day as the hood and trunklid are faded beyond saving I believe.  This car is also a Brougham but on the closed car you got a fancy cloth material instead of the leather.  One owner car out of Colorado, the car has an odd color combo with brown outside and green inside.  The reason this happened is that the car was ordered with a gold interior (I have the paperwork from the purchase in 68) but the dealer screwed up since there was no gold interior available on a 4 door Brougham, factory changed it to green with advising the dealer or owner.  

I was going to ask about what factory literature is available for 69 Canadian ponchos? I have the letter from GM with the options but what is known about pricing of cars and options etc? I have a friend who produces window stickers but it seems like there is very limited examples of original canadian window stickers. Back in the day the dealers around here ripped all the window stickers off the cars as they unloaded the cars coming off the truck. Easier to cheat customers when they couldn't even know the factory suggested prices I guess?

The 2+2 finally showed up yesterday, very happy with the car. Very much as described. Amazing original shape, the only repaint is the two front fenders from minor dent repairs. Apart from the bottom corner of the fenders there is zero rust anywhere. Trunk pan still has like new factory applied speckle paint.

On the area for concern front the silver paint is oxidized, may or may not be saveable. The burgundy paint is still quite shiney without having been buffed but there are more scratches than what it looked like in the paint and lots of door rash which is why the main body character line seemed poorly defined. Car must of shared a garage with a family hauler with lots of swinging doors. Runs and drives great, better than expected.

Car is amazingly untouched. One odd thing is that the area in the dash where the shift indicator goes with a column shift automatic still has the shift indicator even though it has the console with the shift indicator there too, is this correct? I thought it would have a blanked out panel with the Pontiac name in it.

Interesting options; two tone of course, tinted glass all around, 300horse, th350, posi, lamp monitor, hood, trunk, underdash and interior mirror lamps. I guess it's the only one exactly like it.

Welcome to Canadianponcho, John! With an impressive fleet like that and being in Montreal I would think your name should be John Scotti. You have a simply amazing cache of GM cars from the days when the "GM Mark of Excellence" was reality. Very impressive. The Canadian cars would appear to be lesser than the U.S. versions (wow, genuine leather on the Bonnie convertible!) but the reality is that most of us enthusiasts of my generation in this still great country of ours grew up with the unique hybrids. The narrow trackers looked perfectly normal to us; big engines were the exception; the wide trackers seemed wide. There were 3 Canadian 69 Pontiacs within a block of my house in '69; 2 Laurentians and a Parisienne, plus 3 Beaumonts within 3 blocks. I am not even touching on the other year models which were also prevalent. Canadian produced vehicles were simply a given back then.

Only 10 more Canadian Pontiac's to go to balance the scale!