What do you guys think? How about putting together a post to gather some info on Columns, Steering wheels and the like? Some good info that we could use to understand what wheels and columns would work in out cars. Try to decipher what differences, between the GM makes and models? Will a USA Pontiac column or wheel fit a CP? Is a Chevy column the same as CP?.
Keep is simple. Post, discuss, argue what you know, post photos, any links to info. And after hashing it out, I'll bring what we can use over to this first post below.
I'll start it out simple with some basic stuff, numbers, info, dimensions, pictures, links etc. Make changes as we go along. If the year and model shown has nothing written and you have some info (or even have that column handy), then add to the thread with a photo, some parts numbers, the length, discussion, suggested corrections, etc. I'll take what I can find as far as numbers from the CP and chev MPC (Master Parts Catalog) and add the numbers in as I find the time. I only have a CP back to 59, the Chev only back to 65. There won't be much to start, but I'll scour the net at least for some images and links, and keep up with maintaining the thread.
I will add Chevy II, Chevelle, Acadian, Beaumont, Tempest, LeMans, GTO as I move forward.
Suggestions are welcome, do I need to add any more to the lists?
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch 3765110, Cancel cam 3813945.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt part number xxxxxxx, Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Steering wheel 9740411(Aqua), Horn rim 9741000, Cap ring 3858429, Medallions xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx. xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever 3783459 (Incl knob), Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
1965
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3856951. Carpet trim 3856953.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Aqua steering wheel 5738214 shown crosses all models above. Multiple different part numbers for different colours, same style wheel for 64 base models but no pn match.
Impala, SS, Parisienne, custom Sport.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3856951. Carpet trim 3856953.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
65/66 Chev/CP tilt columns at a glance appear to share the same splined rag flange design as the USA Pont.
65-66 Imp/Paris share the same style wheel. Part numbers match.
65-66 Imp Tilt shown, 65 Impala, 65/66 bare wheel 5738191 in black, 65/66 SS ring (no Impala script)
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
65 Impala/Parisienne tilt W/Impala tilt/signal knobs, Column base and FW plate,
1966
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
66 Bel Air,
Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
USA Pontiac Tilt columns are slightly longer than Chev/CP, but unlike the CP, they have a sliding rag flange that can be adjusted up.
USA Flange shown,
1967
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
1967 was the first year for collapsible GM columns
Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. CS Tilt 7803774, FS Tilt 7803527. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
From early investigation, it's pretty well 100% certain that the 67/68 Chevrolet tilt will fit the CP. The column collars (Jacket) are completely different, the lever share the same type, but the end designs are different.
67 non tilt floor shift,
67 Imp top, CP bottom, 67 Imp,
Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
1968
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt part number 7803773, FS 7803526. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length 34". Non tilt CS part number 7803773, FS 7803526. CS Tilt 7803774, FS Tilt 7803527. 3 speed standard 7803567. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate 3897651. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
68 shares the same column as 67 through all types. Lever styles differ Chev/CP.
68 imp non,
Catalina, Star Chief, Bonneville, GP.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
68 Cat Non, 68 Bonny trim, unsure non/tilt,
1969
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Impala, SS, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever xxxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
1970
Biscayne, Bel Air, Strato Chief, Laurentian.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar lower xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Impala, Caprice, Parisienne, 2+2, Grande Parisienne.
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
Gear lever xxxxxxx, Signal lever xxxxxxx, Tilt lever CP 3832567, Tilt lever Chev xxxxxx, Collar upper xxxxxxx, Collar low er xxxxxxx, Firewall plate xxxxxxx. Carpet trim xxxxxxx.
Turn signal switch xxxxxxx.
Misc info, descriptions, links and discussion;
Catalina, Bonneville, Star Chief,
Non tilt length xx". Tilt length xx". Non tilt CS part number xxxxxxx, FS xxxxxxx. CS Tilt xxxxxxx, FS Tilt xxxxxxx. 3 speed standard xxxxxxx. Non tilt rag joint xxxxxxx, Tilt Rag xxxxxxx.
One thing I know for sure, the 65 US model (Catalina) tilt fit right into the black 66 Grande Parisienne I sold to Tom in Edmonton a few years back. I've heard they don't fit but it bolted in. I documented that in a thread somewhere. I will try to look for it tonight. The thread may have info in it that you want to include in your post.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
One thing I know for sure, the 65 US model (Catalina) tilt fit right into the black 66 Grande Parisienne I sold to Tom in Edmonton a few years back. I've heard they don't fit but it bolted in. I documented that in a thread somewhere. I will try to look for it tonight. The thread may have info in it that you want to include in your post.
A similar situation: I installed a tilt from a 65 Grand Prix in mine, also bolted in - no issues.
Here's the measurement of the '64 Canadian Pontiac automatic and 3 speed standard steering columns from the bottom of the steering wheel hub onward (both are identical).
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.