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Power windows - 65-66 Laurentian, Strato Chief


So I learned something new yesterday. JohnneeD and I were discussing power windows in the lower model 2 door posts for the 2 years. I would have said not available. He said they were. We are both right. You could order power windows in a 65 Pontiac 2 door post. But not in a 66 Pontiac 2 door post.

Has anyone ever seen any GM B body 2 door post with documented original power windows? It would seem odd that you order a bare bones car to save money and then put convenience options in it. PS and PB is certainly understandable but that's about it.



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I do know that for Chevrolets you could get power windows down to the Bel Air 4-doors & wagons as late as 1970, but not for Biscaynes, and not for the 2-door sedan body style regardless of series. The window winder mechanisms are designed to run the glass differently for each body style. Some drop straight down, some go back & down. If you look in the Fisher Body manuals they show the 2-door sedan moves glass differently than hardtops or 4-doors. I speculate that they figured frugal buyers of the base 2-door sedan would not be the sort likely to pop for power windows, so no need to engineer, manufacture & stock a power window system.

Marketing gets involved at some point, as can Corporate Oversight, and can override offerings.

As late as 1961 you could get an Impala 2-door post. Perhaps at that time they had power windows offered for that body style (I'll have to dig).


Have I seen a 2-door post from that era with power windows? Yes, but it was a customized '66 Biscayne that had much of the interior lifted from a '66 Caprice, plus it had a 396 4-speed. Documented, no.

I will say that on base police cars like Biscaynes & Strato Chiefs you could get power windows on the 4-doors, because often Tenders have certain requirements, and normal marketing considerations don't apply.

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Wagons I've seen. 4 door sedans I've seen. Every body style except 2 door post but yet 65 Laurentian/Strato Chief 2 door post appears to have been offered with power windows.



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When I was an apprentice in the early seventies a customer owned a 1964 bel-air two door sedan with power windows. The car was also a 283/pg and had power steering but manual brakes. It also didnt have a radio! The same family also owned a 1967 bel-air four door sedan with a six cylinder. When the 64 got too rusty its engine was installed in the 67 car. I still see the 67 around once in awhile, I think its still in the same family.
My Aunt also owned a 1960 Laurentian four door sedan with power windows, also 283/pg. it was scrapped in 1971 due to rust.

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Prefectca wrote:

When I was an apprentice in the early seventies a customer owned a 1964 bel-air two door sedan with power windows. 

Paul


 And sure enough, the parts book shows the quarter window regulator for power windows, 2 door post, 1961-1964 as all being the same regulator. What an odd combo Paul, a car with no power brakes or a radio but power windows!



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Strange things happened in the 60s and 70s. My Aunt bought a 1969 Nova new and it had a torque drive transmission. The shift pattern on the shift quadrant was Park, Reverse, Neutral, Hi, First. I looked under the car and the trans was a powerglide but didnt have a provision for the kickdown linkage. Basically it was a powerglide with a manual valve body. Pull away in first and then shift to high. I asked my aunt why she bought it that way and she said she could push and pull on that lever a lot for the $180 difference in price for an automatic! It seems like a trivial amount of money now but in 1969 it probably was a big expense.
I also read an article about a one owner 1970 Chevelle SS396. When it was ordered the buyer wanted Monaco Orange, but the colour wasnt a standard colour in 1970. To be able to afford the special order colour he dropped the gauge package. So his 1970 SS 396 had round instruments, but idiot lights and no tachometer like a Monte Carlo.

Paul

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