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Under dash harness


What's the easiest way to access the under dash harness I'm getting sick if being upside down and need to have some finesse. Seems like my ammeter shorted out and turned the wires into lightsabers.

 

I was looking for why my speedo lights weren't working and found it was burnt from the ammeter to about 3 inches from the fuse box. Is there a way to throw an online fuse in so this doesn't happen again?



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Wes, if you don't mind a little bit of extra work you will be happy with it in the end. Remove the dash pad.

To do that, hopefully this post will help you. If you still have questions after reading it, fire away!

canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t54234112/adding-cruise-control-removing-front-radio-speaker-removing-/

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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)

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And I would disable the ammeter and install an underdash voltmeter or some other alternative.

On my 66 Strato Chief I removed the wiring for the ammeter at both connections. I just use a little digital voltmeter that plugs into the lighter socket. It gives temperature, voltage and also has 2 USB ports on it. Bought off Amazon. I can get you pictures if you like.

I'll be unhooking the one on my Grande Parisienne as well. The 66 ammeters are known to cause fires in our cars.

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So do you just unplug and forget or does it require a jumper? I was pretty sad to see this not gonna lie ill have to split the loom and everything was looking good. I think I may goto the triple Guage set up that way I can get oil pressure volts and coolant temp

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Also did some reading and apparently putting tge wrong alternator in causes this..

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I unhooked the wire at both ends (starter end and horn relay end), then just taped the ends into the harness. In your case you might as well just strip them out of there because the wires are damaged anyway. I left mine intact in case I ever wanted to hook it up again but I sure don't see why anyone ever would. That is a live wire with no circuit protection at all. It's crazy to think that they ever did that.



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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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Ya I'll end up striping the harness back to the fuse block and see how bad it is. Bust out the soldering station and heat shrink.

I promised myself I was going to take the entire car apart. That didn't last long.

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Westhewelder wrote:

 Bust out the soldering station and heat shrink.

I promised myself I was going to take the entire car apart. That didn't last long.


 Yup, old cars. Gotta love 'em......

 



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I have a used dash harness from a 66 I stripped so if you need anything from it just let me know.

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I could definitely use matching wire colors lol it seems like all the connectors are OK but I'll have to dig a bit deeper. Usually when I do my wiring I just buy a big spool of white and mark it with colored sharpies.

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I have lots of the factory style connectors too. If you need any twinlock or Packard 56 terminals for the firewall connector.

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Westhewelder wrote:

I could definitely use matching wire colors lol it seems like all the connectors are OK but I'll have to dig a bit deeper. Usually when I do my wiring I just buy a big spool of white and mark it with colored sharpies.


 By all means come for a visit if you wish.



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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)

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Just spent a week in MB both Beaumontguru and Carl are good people with lots of knowledge especially Beaumontguru, and hes nicer and doesnt massacre cars

-- Edited by Johnnee D on Thursday 29th of August 2024 01:32:33 PM

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Johnnee D wrote:

Just spent a week in MB both Beaumontguru and Carl are good people with lots of knowledge especially Beaumontguru, and hes nicer and doesnt massacre cars

-- Edited by Johnnee D on Thursday 29th of August 2024 01:32:33 PM


 Wes, just so you know, my Strato Chief was originally a 283 car. JohnneeD tells me I massacred the car. This is how it looks under the hood now. This is what he calls massacred. You can be the judge!

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And originally it was a 3 speed column shift with the 283. This is how it looks inside now with the 4 speed. Again, I'll let you be the judge!

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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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My eyes

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Ha, your car do what you want. I painted a c10 with tremclad at one point just wanted to drive it and have fun. Wasn't worried about other people's thoughts on it. Some would say the same about me.

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I don't want to derail your thread about the wiring but I have an itch to do a Tremclad paint. Some of the videos on it say you can make it look great if you spend some time sanding and polishing it later.

When JohnneeD was here just a few days ago I was bugging him that we should do that on his 65 but he says no!



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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)

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It's a great way to get a paint job on a car for low buck, I'd rather see a cheap paint job then a car rusting out in a field with someone saying I'll get to it one day!.

Back on topic if that harness is complete and in decent shape how much do you want for it?

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Let me go dig it out and see how it looks.

Back to you in a bit.

(Now I have to remember which box it's in...)

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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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Found it.

It's pretty much intact other than the actual plastic body of the fusebox is not there. I unclipped all the wires from the body and used it because the lettering on it for the fuses was good and the one in my Grande Parisienne had basically no lettering left on it. 

How's 25 bucks sound?



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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles 

1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)



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Sounds great to me! I'll have to make a day of coming out there! Maybe next weekend sometime?

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Sure, you say when. I'm retired, around most of the time so as long as we plan a bit it should work.


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So a bit of an update on the wiring harness I stripped the whole thing back and it looks like the ammeter wires didn't take much else out. So I need to somehow bypass that ammeter which I assume is just cut it back and connect the 2 wires off the ammeter.

Also I'm looking for the twinlock pins for the bulkhead side of the box apparently they are unobtainium.

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Westhewelder wrote:


Also I'm looking for the twinlock pins for the bulkhead side of the box apparently they are unobtainium.


 When Beaumontguru reads this he might be able to help you. I think he either has some or knows where to buy them.

And yes, on mine I just unhooked it at the starter end and the horn relay end, then taped them up into the harness.



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Ye, i have the twin-loc connectors and alot of other style GM terminals,  send me a message and we can meet up, im in winnipeg too.   Might be an excuse for a coffee meet.



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