CORRECT 4 SPEED

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

CORRECT 4 SPEED

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I do know 65-69 Canadian big Pontiac is the identical pan as Chevrolet 65-70. It shares no parts in the pan with the USA car. But I'm willing to bet, both are identical in width, rocker to rocker.
Maybe the 69 Impala pictured had it's 4sp added later? Or the picture is a little decieving.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Here's a shot of a 69 SS. I can see that the shifter is oriented to the drivers side at least 2 or more inches, judging by the woodgrain on the console.

2drpost · Uber Guru

427carl wrote:

I have picture of Daves shifter and ring, and shifter from big US Pontiac (red), and picture Dave sent me of 66 4 speed Is the the US 66 car, and the 69 Chev wider? ,as they look more centered..Tan interior shifter is 66 and looks like its closer to side ???

carl 2,
shifter boot and ring in my bel air isn't original '69 parts, i believe it's a chevelle or '65-'66 b-body. the '69 ring has a more square shape to it.
dave.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Are you going to change yours , when you put in carpet? if you are-- do you want a boot and ring, if I can find 2??

poncho62 · Poncho Master!

I remember seeing some GM 4 speed shifter handles that had a jog in them to centre the shifter handle more when it came into the car........Maybe, that is why one seems more centred than the other.

2drpost · Uber Guru

427carl wrote:

Are you going to change yours , when you put in carpet? if you are-- do you want a boot and ring, if I can find 2??

hey carl 2,
probably reuse that one, car's not original anyway.
but if you find an original/repro let me know. thanks.
dave.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

10-4 p.s. I Loooovvveee big white (gm)

2drpost · Uber Guru

carl 2,
wtf, your avatar picture keeps changing, have you got the revolving avatar option?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Yes! its a gift from Todd , because i,m car razy lol hey did you price thoses rods yet?

2drpost · Uber Guru

you need the upper and lower rods??

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

yes sir! I dont have any at all... no way.. none....

2drpost · Uber Guru

pm me your address, i'll cda post them to you.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

TODAYS TRIVIA; I have a cross arm/shaft and I have a new ball, for each end.. One end of my shaft, has oval area for ball to pivot on (bellhousing side) The other end, that fastens to bracket ,on frame, has a ball in it! and I thought it should come out....sooo Is it correct for the bracket end, ball to be in it? I looked on e-bay,and found some for sale, and they show picture with ball in it! V8carl-no trans..

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Here's a Canadian 65-70 big car diagram and group mpc parts list for the rod.
Looks like there's a ball stud (14) and replaceable seat (13) on the frame side of the lever shaft. They each have there own part #'s within group 0.851, yet they show them together and not exploded in the diagram.
I'd say the ball stud should stay in place in the seat.

-- Edited by cdnpont at 15:17, 2008-02-07

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

If I understand your question correctly, the end you have now with a ball (with a stud sticking out of it) is the frame side, as shown in the pic. There is a wire clip (snap ring) holding that seat in. You can remove the ring, then the seat, then the ball and then another seat if I am remembering it right. There is a concave seat for each side of the ball. Your local dealer should have, or can get them under 3743349 as shown in the parts pic.

The other end has a seat that just slides into the tube, then you install that end of the tube onto the ball that is on the bellhousing. It doesn't need a seat on each side of the ball.

This is going by memory and using the parts picture as reference, subject to change without notice.....................!

Did this solve your mystery?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

TA DA! YES! YOU ARE CORRECT!! 1. i was wondering, if the cross shaft I had, was broken on one end, but you answered the question, with answer about clip ..2. my second question was, if mine wasn't broke, how would you replace the ball with new one.. again answer was the clip!! thank you very much!!!.. the picture you sent, also showed me, where to put, clutch pedal rod boot #10 the next page fully expanded is excellent.!!. at lawyers phone call rates, i.m sending you a check for 180.00 thanks Carl 2

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Boy, I can't wait to get a scanner and start posting pics on here. At the rate you are paying for advice and pictures, I am going to retire sooner than I thought. I'm 50 now, and had my heart set on 55, but at this rate...................