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63 Pontiac 409 425 4 speed at Fleetwood June7-08
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COOL CAR on A HOT DAY.

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That is a sweet ride. Did they ever put the 409 in a Pontiac?? Sorry but had to ask as I do not know.

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For sure in 64 and 65 they did. I have always thought there was no 62 or 63 409 Pontiac but there has been discussion here that they do exist as a factory built car.

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Very nice-Beaumont Bill would like to buy one if anyone see's one out there

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

For sure in 64 and 65 they did. I have always thought there was no 62 or 63 409 Pontiac but there has been discussion here that they do exist as a factory built car.


We have the 409 expert as a member on here, Aubrey Bruneau and he can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think there were 409 cars in 1962 but for sure 1963 is the first year of the 409 in Canadian Pontiacs.



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There was a complete rebuilt 409 engine for sale at the Barrie swap meet. Never though to look at the stamp to see what it was out of.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

For sure in 64 and 65 they did. I have always thought there was no 62 or 63 409 Pontiac but there has been discussion here that they do exist as a factory built car.


        This car had the shipping notice for car, and the original deal, from the dealer ship The original owner paid 2730.00 and a 57 Pontiac for it!  Those are correct emblems on fenders...biggrin



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did astro jet get pictures of this?   It was over behind the guest house..

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Just got back from Ontario. I looked at this car on the weekend. I also saw it in Barrie when it was red and before restoration about 7 or 8 years ago. The guy had all the documents. This car is real and very nice, but he did a lot of panel replacement (documented with photos) to get it that way. You could get the 409 in the Pontiac in 63, 64 & 65. You could get the 340, 400 and 425 Hp versions in 63 & 64 for sure. Not sure if the 425 was available for 65. Regardless 409 Pontiacs are very rare.  

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My 1965 Owners Manual shows 2 versions of the 409. 340 HP @ 5200 RPM and 400 HP @ 5800 RPM. Torque is shown as 420 @ 3200 and 425 @ 3600 respectively. The 400 HP Motor is described as "special cam" and 11:1 compression ratio. The 340 is 10:1 compression.

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Interesting.

My 58-66 parts book shows the 409 available for 64 in 340,400 or 425 horse.

For 65 it shows 340 or 400 horse.

No mention at all of a 409 Pontiac before that. I don't doubt what you guys are saying about them being available sooner, but why does the parts book printed in 66 not list a 409 until 64? It's not an old outdated book, and it's not so new that it wouldn't have that info.

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427carl wrote:

did astro jet get pictures of this?   It was over behind the guest house..


I think I did, I'll have to check tonight.



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Here are some other Pontiac pictures I got at the Fleetwood country cruisein & the Barrie flea market a few weeks back.

-- Edited by gparis7 at 23:23, 2008-06-28

-- Edited by gparis7 at 23:26, 2008-06-28

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nice red 67 sd... i had docs on a red/black top 67 sd, redline tires... very nice, also had docs on a green sd with lots of options...350hp...

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gparis7 wrote:

Here are some other Pontiac pictures I got at the Fleetwood country cruisein & the Barrie flea market a few weeks back.

-- Edited by gparis7 at 23:23, 2008-06-28

-- Edited by gparis7 at 23:26, 2008-06-28


That 57 safari wagon gets around, I've seen it at Thornhill and Etobicoke in the last month. It is a pretty cool survivor, the cargo area has a few pieces of period luggage and a neat picnic basket and magazines and what not. Seats have Mexican blankets over them. As I recall it is a west coast car, at least that's what the dealer plates says on the tailgate.



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