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GM outlines its plans


GM offers cuts in brands, salaries, debt, payroll

Harry Stoffer
Automotive News
December 2, 2008 - 3:17 pm ET

WASHINGTON -- The General Motors of 2012 will have fewer brands and nameplates, thousands fewer dealers and employees, and much less debt on its balance sheet, under a restructuring plan GM gave Congress today.

GM will focus on its "core brands" of Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac, the plan says. GM will sell Saab, shrink Pontiac to a niche brand and consider selling or closing Saturn, GM President Fritz Henderson told reporters at a briefing today.

GM also plans to trim its U.S. dealerships from today's 6,450 to about 4,700, Henderson said. It will cut about one-third of the nameplates from its vehicle lineup.

GM executives say the plan will enable the company to be profitable even if the U.S. new-vehicle market makes only a modest recovery.

GM, like Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC, submitted its plan in an effort to persuade Congress and the Bush administration to approve $25 billion in emergency loans to the Detroit 3 this month.

In the starkest acknowledgment GM has made of its financial condition, the company says it needs $4 billion in federal aid by the end of the month.

Henderson, in a briefing with reporters today, refused to say what would happen if GM does not get the immediate aid it seeks. But without government support, he warned, "the company cannot fund its operations."

Request: $18 billion

GM's plan asks Congress for $12 billion in loans by the end of March. It seeks another $6 billion in revolving credit if market conditions don't turn around.

The total request is higher than the $10 billion to $12 billion that GM CEO Rick Wagoner requested of lawmakers during congressional hearings two weeks ago.

Henderson called the GM plan "a blueprint for creating a new General Motors -- one that is leaner, profitable, self-sustaining and fully competitive." Among its key features:

Reducing the number of GM brands and nameplates, a step GM critics have demanded for years.

Henderson said GM will seek a buyer for Saab. Pontiac will be shrunk to a "specialty, niche" brand, Henderson said. GM already has put Hummer up for sale.

Under its franchise agreement with Saturn dealers, GM will seek a new course for that brand, Henderson said. Asked whether GM would sell or fold Saturn, he said he would not eliminate any options.

The brand "is just not successful," Henderson said.

The number of GM nameplates would drop from 63 today to about 40 by 2012, Henderson added.

Trimming GM's 6,450 U.S. dealerships to about 4,700.

Most reductions would occur in metropolitan areas, Henderson said.

Reopening talks with the UAW to cut manufacturing costs further.

Henderson declined to identify the additional concessions GM will seek. But he said GM expects to be fully competitive in labor costs with Toyota Motor Corp. by 2012.

Henderson estimated GM's total U.S. head count would drop from today's 96,000 employees to between 65,000 and 75,000.

Negotiating with lenders and bondholders to remove about $35.6 billion in debt from GM's books. At the end of September, the company owed $66 billion. Henderson said that debt load is too heavy.

GM aims to achieve through negotiation the kind of debt reduction that otherwise might occur in bankruptcy, Henderson said. The plan probably will involve some exchange of debt for stock.

Breakeven: 13 million sales

Under its plan, GM would break even if U.S. light-vehicle sales recover to just 12.5 million to 13 million cars and trucks a year, Henderson said. Over the past few months, the annualized U.S. sales rate has been less than 11 million units. From 1999 to 2007, the industry sold more than 16 million new cars and trucks each year.

In its plan, GM also agreed to have a government oversight board monitor use of the federal money. Taxpayers would get a stake in the company in exchange for the loans.

After last month's congressional hearings, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., chastised the Detroit 3 CEOs for failing to make an adequate case for federal aid.

The leaders demanded that the Detroit 3 tell Congress in detail how they would use federal loans and how they would make themselves viable for the long term.

Reacting to lawmakers' complaints that the companies' CEOs came to Washington last month in separate corporate jets, Wagoner is scheduled to return to the capital this week in a Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid.

Wagoner has agreed to accept a salary of $1 next year. The GM plan includes cuts in pay for other senior executives, and the company says it is ceasing use of its jets.

Committee hearings on the Detroit 3 loan requests are set for Thursday in the Senate and Friday in the House. As they did last month, the Detroit 3 CEOs and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger are expected to testify.

Reid and Pelosi have promised to call Congress back into session next week to consider the companies' aid pleas if the viability plans are acceptable.
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I wonder what they mean by making Pontiac a "specialty, niche brand"? Maybe that will mean you can only purchase special imported models like the G8 GXP at selected dealers of the brands that are left?


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They have obviously have been talking to Todd, and the "niche" will be the cars He suggested   RWD Pariesenne's Laurentian's and Trans Ams etc.   way to go!!

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It amazes me that they have kept Saturn & Saab. Saturn= "the car built for people that hate cars" Saab= "Completely Quirky and full of glitches"
Those are my quotes I've been spouting off for years when anybody started praising those 2 duds. They would have been axed years ago.
It's funny now that they are forced, management finally admits to "too many brands" It's a shame for all the people working for GM, but a house cleaning from top to bottom has been needed for years to stay viable in a new world economy.
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what do you think of the GMC going?

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427carl wrote:

what do you think of the GMC going?



Carl, I don't see that but I will read it agian. They need GMC to make the Chevy Trucks and Cadillac trucks.



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Caddy trucks   lol      I should have seen that one comingbiggrin

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It amazes me that they have kept Saturn & Saab. Saturn= "the car built for people that hate cars" Saab= "Completely Quirky and full of glitches"






Shoulda kept the other "S" brand - Subaru! Their sales are down this month too, but only 7.8% compared to GM's 40%! And they are an acknowledged leader in AWD technology - probably why Toyota snapped up a big interest after GM sold!!!

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Well, I hope they turn it around. Not to sound pessimistic but I don't think throwing more money at the big 3 will change the consumers perception of them.


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If they are wiling to make the same committment Lee Iaccoca & Chrysler made in the early 80's maybe the public will stand behind them again.

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Well, I hope they turn it around. Not to sound pessimistic but I don't think throwing more money at the big 3 will change the consumers perception of them.



       There are millions and millions of big 3 great quality out there now.. Lets say 05 and up  How long to change public perception.. I have had 7 new  big 3 car since 1990 and loved them...



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The challenge will be getting people to drive one. If there is a bright note to all this, I read Malibu sales were actually up since last year. That car is a step in the right direction. I am impressed with the details on that car.


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you have to admit, they sold a ton of Avalanche,Yukon,Tahoe,Suburbans 07 and up  We sure love ours...

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427carl wrote:

you have to admit, they sold a ton of Avalanche,Yukon,Tahoe,Suburbans 07 and up  We sure love ours...



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thank you    I love it,idea when you talk like that   lol  

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not sure about the quality in 05 & up

my 05 GMC canyon had $ 1800.00 in warrenty work done in the first month of ownership
totaled $3600 by year three when the 3yr 60,000 was up ( i hit the 3yr mark first ) 

 it was an " o.k " truck at best .... it went back at the end of the lease
 and GM didnt even try to get me into anouther vehicle , and i was looking ?!?

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the canyon/colorado are isuzus......with gm engines. bleh

add...isuzu design, built in usa.

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I got a nice 92 S10 I'll sell ya Keith!

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My wife's 99 Suburban is a tad under 200,000 km now, it had one warranty job, a battery made in Mexico. Besides gas oil tires and brakes I have no expenditures to report. That's a pretty good record of reliability and quality over 9 years.

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Good to hear  wink We are going to have to drive ours 10 years!  

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73SC wrote:

My wife's 99 Suburban is a tad under 200,000 km now, it had one warranty job, a battery made in Mexico. Besides gas oil tires and brakes I have no expenditures to report. That's a pretty good record of reliability and quality over 9 years.




I had a 99 Yukon-great truck ! again Consumer report said it was poor quality-outdated !



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Whatever Consumer Report says is bad I tend to gravitate towards....

They didn't like the B bodies )Impala SS, Roadmaster) and D bodies (Fleetwood) of the mid 90's as I recall. Need I say more???

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the canyon/colorado are isuzus......with gm engines. bleh



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Todd , i asked the "bank" and she said i have to live with the Grand cherokee , so no S10


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Whatever Consumer Report says is bad I tend to gravitate towards....

They didn't like the B bodies )Impala SS, Roadmaster) and D bodies (Fleetwood) of the mid 90's as I recall. Need I say more???



Oh, no fear here of believe consumer report, remember they chose the lumina van over the 'B' body wagon !-their comments were about the huge dash in the 'b' body ! agreed but did they look at the dash in the Lumina van !



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Consumer reports are written by soccer moms, they haven't got a clue about cars or how to drive them!

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