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64 bonneville(whats your thoughts?)


a friend of mine (70 chevy)has been offered this car as a trade on a vehicle he is selling,hes not up on his old car stuff and was wondering what i thought ,he sent me some pics ,doesnt look bad ,what do you guys think?
i know you cant tell by just pics.
all i know is its  a american car oiginaly from virginia,now in canada,kinda a resto mod with a 455

this was sent to him
1964 PONTIAC BONNEVILLE  (GTO BIG BROTHER)
455 BIG BLOCK WITH
EDELBROCK TORKER INTAKE 
600 EDELBROCK CARB
SUMMIT  CAM (214 /224 DURATION & .442/.465  LIFT)
6X8  HEADS .. PLAINED AND COMPLETELY REBUILT
NEW VALVES, SPRINGS, ROCKER ROLLERS ...
SUMMIT  TIMING GEAR DRIVE SET
MR GASKET ELECTRIC WATER PUMP AND FAN
PRO COMP ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP
B&M MEGA SHIFTER
POWER WINDOWS, POWER STEERING, POWER BRAKES,
NO RUST AT ALL ON THIS CAR ......... 
EXCELLENT CONDITION VERY CLEAN  INSIDE AND OUT
NICE FOR SHOWS OR CRUSE NIGHTS
APPRAISED AT  $15,000
 














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he was wondering about problem areas to watch out for when he goes to see it,aparently it was babied by the owner,does anyone know the car ,woodstock area?

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I don't know what your buddy has to trade but I sure like it

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i think hes trading a rig of the same value?am not sure if hes thinking of keeping it or selling it but id sure sell my car to buy it,lol

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heres the engine ,looks like a couple of bucks in it?


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68sd wrote:

he was wondering about problem areas to watch out for when he goes to see it,aparently it was babied by the owner,does anyone know the car ,woodstock area?



These are pretty good cars, with the possible exception of the auto trans, but I'm guessing it's got a later T400 trans, in which case it should be pretty reliable. They have full perimeter frame, & four link rear suspension, same as adopted by all full size GM lines including Chevy after 1970. Really good handling cars even with bias plies back when I owned the closest cousin, a 63 Grand Prix.   Ont thing that doesn't appeal to me on the 61-64 Bonneville US cars is the long rear deck. That's where they added the extra 3 inches of wheel base and to me it makes the proportions of the car look wrong as compared to a Parisienne, Catalina or Grand Prix. But that's just a matter of personal taste.  



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i never noticed that before ,cool

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That car has been for sale/trade on kijij since early last year.

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That car has been for sale for quite a while. I don't think because there's anything wrong with it. Price might be why. It looks like a good car. Member "Slinky" isn't too far from Norwich. He may know the car. Slink?


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Can someone please post the wheel base of the Canadian cars and the various US cars in the period 61-64? Overall length too?

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the car has been for sale forever @ I think $10,500, sounds fair-not the most mainstream car but great entry. the frames rot, the floor supports and trunk pans rot, rockers, fender heals, lower rear quarters-this one looks good-same like GP. I'll give him my survivor 83 TA for it

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guess if theres a car out there one of us know it ,cool,thanks

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73SC wrote:

Can someone please post the wheel base of the Canadian cars and the various US cars in the period 61-64? Overall length too?



Here is the information I have on the 62-64 Pontiac full size US & Cdn. It comes from factory US & Canadian Pontiac chassis manuals and US & Canadian sales brochures. I don't have a US factory brochures for 61, so I won't quote data. I know that WB was same as for 62 models however.

1962
US
Bonneville (28 series except wagon) & Star Chief (26 series): WB 123"; Overall length - 218.6"; Catalina (series 23) and Grand Prix (series 29); WB 120"; overall length - 211.6". All Wagons - Bonneville and Catalina series 27 & 23: WB 119"; overall length 212.3"
Canadian
7000 series. WB - 119.0"; overall length - 211.6" exc wagon 212.3"

1963
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WB same in 63 as 62 for all models noted for 62. Overall length Bonneville and Star Chief except wagon: 218.9"; Catalina & Grand Prix: 211.9"; Catalina & Bonneville wagons: 212.8"
Canadian
7000 series. WB 119"; overall length 212.0" exc wagon 212.5"

1964
US
WB same in 64 as in 62 & 63 for all models. Overall length Bonneville & Star Chief exc wagon: 220.0"; Catalina & Grand Prix: 213.0"; Catalina & Bonneville wagons: 213.8"
Canadian - no factory info
7000 series:  no GM Canadian data

Hope this helps.




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Wow, that's a lot of info right there, thanks for taking the time to do that. I always had it in my mind that Bonnevilles were about 6" longer so I guess I was close.

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57poncho wrote:

I don't know what your buddy has to trade but I sure like it




        I like it too   If its rust free, its worth 10 plus driveline... Where you gonna find one?  you guys KNOW how much body work costs....



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   Ont thing that doesn't appeal to me on the 61-64 Bonneville US cars is the long rear deck. That's where they added the extra 3 inches of wheel base and to me it makes the proportions of the car look wrong as compared to a Parisienne, Catalina or Grand Prix. But that's just a matter of personal taste.  



I agree, having grown up with Canadian Pontiacs, I have also found Bonnevilles, especially the 2 doors to be totally out of proportion.  As to value, I would say $10K would be generous.  As Ken said, this car has been for sale forever and just does not have a lot of appeal to a lot of people, much like our Canadian Pontiacs.doh  Not sure what your buddy has to trade but if this floats his boat, go for it, just remember if he doesn't like it and wants to sell, it will probably take him forever as well, might have to drop the price down to the $7-8K range to move it.  Sorry that hurts, but that is reality.



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Agree with you Hillar, the disproportionate effect is most pronounced in the 2 dr cars. The Bonneville 4 dr HT actually looks quite sharp in 64.

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That is a nice looking car. The work on the engine would have cost a fair chunk of change.

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1961 US models

Tempest - WB - 112, length - 189.3

Catalina - WB - 119, length - 210; Station Wagon - 209.7

Ventura - WB - 119, length - 210

Star Chief & Bonneville - WB - 123, length - 217

Custom Safari 6 passenger - WB - 119, length - 209.7

No Grand Prix in '61.

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