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Nitros illegal in Ontario


I just recieved my plate renewal notice today and there is some new information on rules and regulations in Ontario. It is now illegal to have a nitros oxide system hooked up while travelling on municipal roads and provincial highways. I never heard or read about this before. Anybody hear about it?

Al

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guess i'll have to take it off my bike.

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Taylor55 wrote:

I just recieved my plate renewal notice today and there is some new information on rules and regulations in Ontario. It is now illegal to have a nitros oxide system hooked up while travelling on municipal roads and provincial highways. I never heard or read about this before. Anybody hear about it?

Al



Al, this has been the case for some time.  It was brought out as part of the Benito Fantino's (my favourite fascist OPP commissioner) "street racing" legislation.  HTA sec. 172 allows the cops to suspend your license and impound your vehicle for a week for virtually anything they should choose to charge you with in their discretion.  One of the things on the list is the NO2 system.  Mind you, it is completely legal to have it, you just cannot have it functional on the street.  Once you are off the public highways you can connect it and use it to your heart's content!  There is a laundry list of things that qualify, like "squealing your tires" or turning left in front of someone if the cop feels you should have given way.  It is truly fascist police state legislation as it gives total power to the cop to be judge, jury and executioner at the side of the road.  Even if you later are exonerated in court, you are still out the cost and expense of having your vehicle towed and impounded for a week and your driver's license being suspended for the same time, there is no compensation for any of that if the cop is proven to wrong in court and charges are shown to be unjustified.



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You know you can sue the police officer personally.  You just have to work a little harder to do it. 

When you beat the charges, you must get the JP or Judge to state in court that you should have never been charged.  This opens the police officer up to civil action, since they are no longer protected by the Police Services act.  They are only protected when they are acting in the lawful pursuint of their job.  An officer charging someone who should never have been charged is not lawful and they are open to being sued personally.

If you are really good, and get the JP or Judge to state in court that the HTA. 172 is unlawful, you will not only make case law that cripples this law,
Also, the police are to NOT enforce any laws that are unlawful (there is actually a lot of them) because they contravine a higher low.  The highest law in the land is The Charter of Rights and Freedoms. 

The HTA is a provencial law and cannot supercede the Charter.  This law in fact is in direct violation of Sections 8 and 11 and should not be enforced, since by enforcing it, the officer is breaking the law!
 8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
   
 11. Any person charged with an offence has the right
a) to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence;
b) to be tried within a reasonable time;
c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence;
d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;
e) not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause;
f) except in the case of an offence under military law tried before a military tribunal, to the benefit of trial by jury where the maximum punishment for the offence is imprisonment for five years or a more severe punishment;
g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations;
h) if finally acquitted of the offence, not to be tried for it again and, if finally found guilty and punished for the offence, not to be tried or punished for it again; and
i) if found guilty of the offence and if the punishment for the offence has been varied between
 
  


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If you have nitrous in your car, you do have to post ample decals, in case you wipe out and emergency services have to respond,ie(fire, cops,etc..) so that they know of the explosive product inside the wreck. Just undo the couplings on your bottles while driving on the street.

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Next will they ban turbos? superchargers? cars that can reach speeds over 100 km/h??

Maybe ban those fart can exhaust tips? and racing stickers? might be onto something!hahaha!

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ak 67sd wrote:

Next will they ban turbos? superchargers? cars that can reach speeds over 100 km/h??



Don't laugh, there is already a law in Ontario requiring transport trucks to have a governor which will not allow them go faster than 100 kmph.



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I dunno, having a few pounds of boost has gotten me out of a few tight jams...


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A Canadian ISO 9000 representative (No Name) visited South Africa in 1995 and I took him on a scenic drive from Durban to Richards Bay.  Coming back I realised we were running late and put foot! biggrin He nearly freaked out when traveling at 150kmh. ashamed the speedlimit back home (Toronto) was 110kmh then!  Can't enjoy the thrill of speed! aww I was driving a Z24 Nissan pickup then!

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Well I don't know about law but I do know that if when I appraise a car I state it has N.O.S. equipment the insurer will not take it-so it would have to be illegal for them to do that.

 The speed limit in Slovak republic was 130 km and everyone was going 150 km

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On the same note regarding "Laws"...... Years ago I was given a seat belt ticket while out in my '69 Chevelle. The ticket was for "failing to wear COMPLETE seat belt assembly. You see, I was wearing the lap belt only and not the separate shoulder belt.

In the MTO rules and regulations book (at that time) it clearly states that any pre 1973 vehicle with a separate shoulder restraint is optional and not mandatory to be worn. The lap belt is mandatory.

I went to court to fight the ticket and the ticket was thrown out.



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Velle Addict wrote:

On the same note regarding "Laws"...... Years ago I was given a seat belt ticket while out in my '69 Chevelle. The ticket was for "failing to wear COMPLETE seat belt assembly. You see, I was wearing the lap belt only and not the separate shoulder belt.

In the MTO rules and regulations book (at that time) it clearly states that any pre 1973 vehicle with a separate shoulder restraint is optional and not mandatory to be worn. The lap belt is mandatory.

I went to court to fight the ticket and the ticket was thrown out.



Really-I would have thought whatever its equipped with needs to be worn



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I wonder what kind of greif I'm gonna get when I get the ta out on the road. They were factory cars so I guess I'll have to wait and see.

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In South Africa, the original type seatbelts as fitted in the factory are the ones you wear legally.  Not all vehicles had provision for shoulder belts and it would be unsafe to fit such belts without the required re-inforcing.

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I will add to this :  Next time you get your insurance slip in the mail  read the pamplet  that comes with it ...... Stuff like you can not change the size of your tires  NO lowering springs etc   Voids your ins

You can have nitros in your car at any time  it just cannot be hooked up

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Seems to me that there are alot of "tuner" crap cans out there ruining it for the rest of us, not to many tri power goats wrapped around pedestrians in the papers.

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