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RE: guess what stevie is up to.


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other side done just need to mount the wheels probably tonite



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Looks good Steve

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How do you get the car body up that high without a hoist?

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i have a chain hoist with falls. the beam spans the shop 24 ft and for the other end of the car i brought in a old swing set made out of 2x6. i know it works because i used it to lift the 69 caprice off the trailer





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Stephenzone wrote:

other side done just need to mount the wheels probably tonite



looks good steve...i better bring my camera this sunday...you didn't patent that yet did you? wink

 



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i used these plans. i'm about 250 into it not including welding supplies

http://members.tripod.com/~mopar_roadster/body_rotisserie.html

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Steve I like your idea/plan of only having 1 tube in the middle.

If any one else is interested I have a neighbour building me 2 units right now and will have final pricing soon,you can purchase the smaller pieces that are more difficult to make and size from us and buy your long connecting tubes locally.

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finished on wheels. probably thur roll outside to clean up the rough edges. then paint.

i've seen both with tube down the middle and outboard. i have no intentions of travelling with it, so the single tube appealed to my Scottish heritage



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Stephenzone wrote:
i've seen both with tube down the middle and outboard. i have no intentions of travelling with it, so the single tube appealed to my Scottish heritage

 


rofl.gif That Scottish curse strikes again!

 



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Stephenzone wrote:

i have a chain hoist with falls. the beam spans the shop 24 ft and for the other end of the car i brought in a old swing set made out of 2x6. i know it works because i used it to lift the 69 caprice off the trailer





That's some good redneck lifting. That's the way I would do it but there must be another way.

 



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That's some good redneck lifting. That's the way I would do it but there must be another way.



The only other way i can think is 4 strong burly lads and saw horses. I think the big shops probally put the body on a pallet and then use a pallet jack or if they have the tractor w/ forks they can skip the pallet and take it right off the frame.

somehow the body has to be lifted off the frame and then mounted into the rotisserie. but then you still have to get the frame out from under it. I did see plans that used both hydralic rams and farmer hi-jacks to lift the body up the supporting post.

I'm figuring do one end at a time, sliding a length of 2x2 tubing across between the frame and body using 2 chain hoists for lifting. once the body is high enough to clear the frame i'll roll it out. i'll assemble each end of the rotisserie at that height. once in the jig i can use the chain hoist (at each end) to lift to an approiate rotating heights. be nice if i had the tractor with pallet forks.

 



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Lookin' good Steve!.

Back in my collision repair days we used to lift the bodys from the door hinge mountings for the front/bulk of the weight and the rear by a comealong up/over or rolling engine lifts depending on whatever method worked best if just lifting straight up or moving the body around the shop and/or allowing clearance for wheeling frames in/out..

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More equipment is better but I don't see a tractor in my future. The bodies aren't heavy but a lifting beam in the joists looks like the way to go. Wonder if a cherry picker could be modified to work?

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Here's how I do it now. kind of long, sorry.

To lift or lower my body and lacking a garage, the main thing to overcome this is, I built 4 very tall jackstands with threaded rods to raise and lower a pad on top of them. They can raise about 4 feet, and go as low as about 2 1/2. A tripod base with 3 adjustable feet in the base to level them if need be...

Jack up the rear end with a floor jack and place the rear wheels on ramps or blocks. Place a 2" square by about 9' long heavywall piece of square tubing across, forward and under the top body door brace bars (seen in earlier picture). Clamp it onto the braces.
Loosen all the body bolts.
Jack up the front with a floor jack under the front crossmember as high as I can get it. A block of wood under it as well to increase lift.
Place the front jacks under that cross brace attached to the door braces. Clamp them to it.
Raise them up slightly. Taking out the slack.
With the back bumper or valance off, place the rear jacks in each far corner, just under the rearmost trunk crossbrace.
Raise them up a little.
Lower the front floor jack, letting the free chassis to separate from the body and come down untill the front wheels touch the ground.
Raise the front jacks to the upper limit.
Raise the rear jacks to the upper limit. Separating the rear body from the frame.
With the floor jack under the rear diff, raise it up slightly, enough to remove the ramps.
Lower it to the ground untill the rear wheel touch the ground.
Roll the chassis forward untill it clears the body.

The front jacks are far enough outboard on the crossbar, that the rear wheels will simply roll between them, and the body is high enough thet the tires will clear the floor pans.

No sweat!

Here's a shot of the "MegaStands"

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65sssd wrote:

More equipment is better but I don't see a tractor in my future. The bodies aren't heavy but a lifting beam in the joists looks like the way to go. Wonder if a cherry picker could be modified to work?



        I thnk two engine lifts could work.

 



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if you are building a shop the i-beam is the way to go. for the other end i'm using a old wooden swing set. as for using a engine lift, i do believe the guy that designed my rotisserie, that is how he lifted the pivot end.

nice mega stands mark

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One thing I'll do when I put the rotis back together Steve
is to use metal shims in place of the cedar ones you see
in the cross sliders.

Since we don't have true telescopic tube, there is quite a bit of slop
in the assembly when loaded with the body and while even fully tightened

I think some single galvanized shims of the right gauge
to make it a better fit will help take out the slight light sag I get.

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-- Edited by cdnpont on Tuesday 31st of March 2009 07:36:28 PM

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This summer I might experiment with the cherry pickers, but I still will have a lifting beam in my new shop. Lucky me, two new shops in 5 years. I hope the next is better than the first. Any good ideas would help because everybody would build a shop a little different the second time.

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Im going to have to get one of these i don't feel safe under cinder blocks

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sorry jonathan but cool69 has dibs on the rotisserie.







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i used marks idea for the doors



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darn i really wanted that lol jk i have a welder now yay lol I'm happy with the plans i can't wait to see how rusty my body really is lol

thanks for the plans



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