do I have to grease it? 


-- Edited by 427carl on Wednesday 20th of May 2009 02:26:39 PM

Ok, I have been using a roller bearing unti I purchased new with  a new Centre Force Dual Friction 11 inch clutch assembly including their self aligning release bearing and have had 19,000 trouble free miles. I have used the sintered bushings over the years and have sometimes felt the bushing spinning when the clutch pedal is depressed.
ARCADIAN

-- Edited by ARCADIAN on Wednesday 20th of May 2009 01:57:33 PM

Do I grease the roller bearing?  wheel bearing grease?   Do I lube the sintered bushing?

Carl, when I researched this issue I came to some conclusions.
1. There are lots of differing opinions.
2. The bushing would be less likely to have lots of little bits floating around if it got worn.
3. The bushing is supposed to be self lubricating so no grease is required.
4. I know nothing, so I used cam lube to help get everything in place. Couldn't hurt right?
5. Dont use the tranny bolts to torque it all into place.

Clutch aligned, install pressure plate, torque properly, pull black plastic thing out and then pray that tranny will slide all the way in.

 One thing I have found with those plastic, if it is, shafts that they give you in the clutch kit, is they are not near precise as the input shaft off of the transmission! I have had the same issue with a gearbox from a '85 1-ton that would not go in. I removed the bell housing and lined it up with my dummy shaft from an old gear box and voila!!!!
 Now why I used that plastic one I am not sure. Probably too lazy to find it in my tool box....! From then on, the real mcoy for me! Also have the 26 spline for the Warners and the smaller version for my 2.8 T-10 pickup.
 P.S. Also make sure you have a yolk in the tail shaft and trans in gear so you can manually line the splines by turning the yolk. (Sorry if you have already tried this)

Carl,
Do you have help?
Do you need help?

427carl wrote:

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I just need to walk away from it.... 

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  And that in itself works near 90% of the time for me as well!!!! Come back 5 minutes later after your heatbeat is back to normal from the 180 beats per minute it was 5 minutes previous, your face no longer the colour of a new bright red fire truck, and it usually falls into place itself............ Time for a ...... or 6!!!!

When 68 327 4spd Brian was here today, I showed him, the "bushing" I was going to install, to replace roller bearing that wont take nose of Muncie..  I took it out of package and tried to "slip it" on the pilot shaft sitting there... IT DOESN'T FIT!   It seems I have the "only Muncie" in the world with a new pilot shaft that won't take a bearing or bushing   Last years trans was the rear!!   So I contacted Peter,(who built the trans) and has installed several of these "new" pilot shafts and no problem with bushing (he won't use roller bearing- hes old school) He installed 1 this past Monday, and had no problem...  so it seems that everything, Carl buys has a problem  If it was a can of beans, mine would have a dent!   lol   So thank God Carl has another Pontiac with a Chevy motor to drive....(it is like 2nd house, didn't sell)   so poor me!  Some days you are the Pigeon, and some days you are the post....  whats wrong with automatics anyway? 

-- Edited by 427carl on Friday 22nd of May 2009 06:52:55 PM

Do you have a digital caliper Carl? Can you get me the diameter of the input shaft?

 From my experience, I would summize you have an oversized input shaft. Since the bearing and the bushing were too small, it is highly unlikely that the bearing/bushing are at fault. Try the plastic alignment input shaft tool and see how it fits! 
 I would suspect that you are going to have to mill the bushing to fit the shaft. And if that is the case, do 2 or 3 of them at the same time and have the others for spares!!
 And your quote of "whats wrong with automatics anyway?" My response, "no fun and very boring"!!!! But that is just me...
 

 

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 23rd of May 2009 07:34:49 AM