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water in carb


hey guys i pulled the front off my car then i thought a tarp would protect the engine. big storm came ripped the tarp from my engine went out side this morning carb has a bit of water in it should i be worried?

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Is the battery still hooked up?

I'd pull out the spark plugs and crank it over a few times in case some got in. Then, plugs back in and run it briefly to dry it out.

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How much is a "bit"? Did you get a few millimeters of rain or a few inches??

Soak up what you can with a paper towel, then open the throttle plates and look down inside. Any sign of water in the intake manifold? How long is it going to be sitting before you run the engine again? If it is going to be sitting for awhile, I would probably try to fire the engine, even for 20 seconds or so to blow out any water (as long as I was sure it hadn't taken in so much water that it was going to hydraulic. Turning the engine over - full cycle - by hand should confirm that none of the cylinders is full of water (actually - Carl's suggestion about pulling the plugs is safer). I find it hard to believe it would have taken in that much water. I'd be more worried about rust in the cylinders if it's going to be sitting for awhile.

My grandfather (and my father) used to de-carbon cars by holding the throttle almost wide open and pouring a half to 3/4 pop bottle of clean water into the the carb. Scared the heck out of me the first time I saw granpda do it. The exhaust went white briefly, then a huge cloud of black smoke. Don't pour too fast, just a steady stream and let the air draw it in. Not a trick for the feint of heart!

Do you have a plastic shower cap? They can work great for covering the carb and help keep water and dirt and nuts and washers and cotter keys out of the carb and intake - or leave the air cleaner on.



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for sitting engines, before storing them I like to run them and SLOWLY pour any 2 cycle oil down the carb as it's running with the engine revving at 2000 RPM or so.

MY theory is that the 2 cyl engine oil will leave a nice oily residue behind and help prevent the cyl. from rusting. IF it's an engine that will be stored for a lengthy time , I back all the valves off so the cylinders are sealed.

YES they make STORE IT and other types of spare, but I always have 2 stroke oil on hand.

I like the shower cap idea ...keep out 1/4" lock washers ,,there nasty!!

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I use automatic tranny fluid, as it's mostly a detergent. Smoke like hell when you re-fire it though.

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jonathanD wrote:

hey guys i pulled the front off my car then i thought a tarp would protect the engine. big storm came ripped the tarp from my engine went out side this morning carb has a bit of water in it should i be worried?



Does the engine run?  (before the water)

 



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it started about 3 times then the starter went lol  all it does now is click i can record the sound im not really sure the problem

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Speaking of grandfathers and their techniques. When my grandfather had a starter that only "clicked" and knew he already had a good battery in and that all connections were tight; he'd take a big screwdriver and jam it between the starter solenoid and battery connection at the starter and
then touch a ground. Sparks would fly all over the place like he was welding under there, but 9 times outta 10 that was enough to unstick the solenoid and at least get it fired up again. I have to admit I've done it myself more than a few times in a pinch. Just make sure yer fingers DON'T touch ANY metal part of the screwdriver when doing it! Probably the other fellas will have much better methods than this one but it's gotten me back on the road long enough to get me home again.

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i have heard about this way before but  i would rathar just replace the starter and wires can't have that problem down the road
( just adding to this could it be possible that my starter has soo much greese and junk around it thats its stuck?)

-- Edited by jonathanD on Sunday 6th of June 2010 07:44:15 PM

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Sounds like either bad connection, bad battery or bad solenoid.

Do you know how to jump across the solenoid terminals with a screwdriver to make it start when the solenoid is bad?

That should at least make it crank over for you if you have a good battery and good connections. Even if you have electrical stuff unhooked that it won't run, cranking it over with the plugs out would be a good idea to purge any water that got in.

Oiling the cylinders as suggested is a good idea too.

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Hey Johnathan, I had just thought you were looking for a really quick way to fire the car in order to get the water out (if any). I also thought too that given you're in the process of tearing the entire car right down to the bare bones, that you may not want to have to go and buy a brand new
starter right away just to get the car going now. As you well know, there will be so many other things you'll need to and want to buy before the engine is even ready to complete the project so it was just a cheap on the spot remedy with virtually no cost; that is, IF it worked. Have you got any
recent pics of where you're at to this point with your project?

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as you can see the car is coming along slowly but still coming (RAIN slows everything down!

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jonathanD wrote:

as you can see the car is coming along slowly but still coming (RAIN slows everything down!



hey i hate fried fingers, i run headers hot selenoids are a common happening go to princess by one of those cheap remote starters that you clip on the selenoid terminals to bump an engine over i carry it in the glove box. use quik start to get it fired and dried out and the green slimy rust check to keep corrosion at bay

 



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