update! key with maple leaf found to unknown dealer on my 67 acadian sport deluxe.

67acadiansd · Veteran Member

update! key with maple leaf found to unknown dealer on my 67 acadian sport deluxe.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Cool! I love seeing the original tags like that!! But I have never seen a key like that though.........

738474?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1277337600&Signature=8Ys8JghnHk6rnGA7%2Fzx2VFg77wE%3D

738474?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1277337600&Signature=8Ys8JghnHk6rnGA7%2Fzx2VFg77wE%3D

738475?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1277337600&Signature=xXh7Io%2F2ceDapB1UdFPv7ZlTxwk%3D

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 12th of June 2010 11:42:49 AM

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Oh My Goodness! The dealer must have thought it was a Pontiac!

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

it will not be an original key.

My guess is it is just a coincidence OR it was a promotional thing that the dealer did.

OURWAGON · Guru

THATS COOL ,LEN SCHMIDT DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN GONE FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS NOW.
I KNOW A FEW GUYS THAT WORKED THERE AS MECHANICS AND ONE AS A PARTS MAN.
ABOUT 5 MIN. AWAY.

67acadiansd · Veteran Member

I bought the car from the second owner, I contacted him about the key and he told me he lost it ages ago.he told me that is the only key that came with the car from the original owner. he had one made (the one I have been using)he told me after he lost that one he got a replacment from the dealer as the codes are still available. that was back in the early 90S . so with that said there is no dought in my mind that this is the original key! the original owner only had this one and used this one, too much of a coincidence for a canadian made car in 1967 to have the key with a maple leaf. now on to the dealer tag, it was probably just put on as a seller/promotional item to help his name get around. anyway would like to hear if anyone else has a key like this?? does anyone even have there original key left?? thanks for all your fine folks input and help.

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I have most of my original keys for my cars 1964 thru 1968, adn none of them look like that.
I will stick with my original theory
But, very cool that you found them, a real keepsake thats for sure!

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

The original keys would have been steel (nickel?) plated in colour over a brass coloured material (no idea what the material actually is). Most aftermarket keys were brass in colour. My original 1969 key has the GM corporate logo with the "Mark of Excellence" slogan under it.

Johnnee D · Guru

wow, that's really cool!!! how difficult would it be to replicate blanks with the maple leaf?

67acadiansd · Veteran Member

cool! thanks for all the insight and help. smile

67acadiansd · Veteran Member

good question?? I dont know how or where you would even do that. sure would be cool for all the canadian cars.

Beaumont4008 · Uber Guru

Sure is a cool looking key , but I do not think is original. Period correct key would have a octigon design. That square end was not used on GM cars until 69. But still cool looking for sure. A hint that not original is that it does not have the factory key number code on it. Or any were that it could have been were it is knocked out like factory ones have.

-- Edited by Beaumont4008 on Sunday 13th of June 2010 11:43:14 AM

norontcan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Have what appears to be original keys for our 65 Parisienne CS. None have the maple leaf logo.
2 keys have the knockouts missing. Says "GM your key to greater value" on both sides
1 key still has the numbered knockout. 1 side says "GM your key to greater value". Other side says "Briggs and Stratton Corporation Milwaukee, Wis, USA."
I set of keys is on a ring with a metal Rumble tag attached.

66 Beau · Poncho Master!

I've got what I believe to be the original keys for my '66. Both have the knockouts still in place with the key codes stamped in them. The key codes match the numbers I found on the build sheet under the rear seat.

The ignition/door key is the old GM octagon (like the one under the Maple Leaf key in the photos above) and the trunk key has the oval/round head.

The Maple Leaf key is pretty cool but I didn't think that rectangular key shape was used until about 68, 69 or 70 - about the same time they came out with locking steering columns. Anybody know for sure when they started using the rectangular ignition key rather than the octagonal one?

dualquadpete · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

66 Beau wrote:

I've got what I believe to be the original keys for my '66. Both have the knockouts still in place with the key codes stamped in them. The key codes match the numbers I found on the build sheet under the rear seat.

The ignition/door key is the old GM octagon (like the one under the Maple Leaf key in the photos above) and the trunk key has the oval/round head.

The Maple Leaf key is pretty cool but I didn't think that rectangular key shape was used until about 68, 69 or 70 - about the same time they came out with locking steering columns. Anybody know for sure when they started using the rectangular ignition key rather than the octagonal one?

I'll go with Wes, I've got both orginal keys for my 64 catalina & they are exactly what Wes described!!!!

Beaumont4008 · Uber Guru

I beleive 69 was the first year for the rectanguler ignition key. Check this post from the chevelle site, shows key samples per year.

http://members.cox.net/chevyjim/GM

69 style

pre 69 style

-- Edited by Beaumont4008 on Sunday 13th of June 2010 11:51:55 AM

beaumontguru · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

This brings up an interesting topic

My 68 trucks(3) have all had the later syle rectagular ones.

My early production 67 beaumont uses the octagonal early type
But my later production 67 beaumont uses the later retanglular ones.

On a side topic
USA 64 chevys use 1 key system
CAN 64 chevys use a 2 key system........now thats some trivia for you!

-- Edited by beaumontguru on Sunday 13th of June 2010 12:55:58 PM

67acadiansd · Veteran Member

yes this is very interesting. with the info you fine folks have provided me with is it possible there was a change over sometime in the 1967 year?? maybe early 1967 cars have the hex and latter produced vehicles have the rectangle?? just a thought. lets try and hear from all the people with there original keys and cars made from 67-68 what key do they have?? and what time of year there car was made??

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Left: Ignition & doors/trunk/console/glove box originals without key code knock-outs.

Right: Original doors/trunk/console/glove box with key code knock-out and funky non-original 50's/60's after-market "Pontiac" cut key (close up below).

Picture of car and sf 010.jpg

-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Sunday 13th of June 2010 06:07:29 PM

norontcan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

My 69 Buick has the square head keys.

Highlander · Veteran Member

My 67 Parisienne 2+2 was built in early Jan.. one key is octagon with the knockouts still in place, with the key codes.. and just below it has the GM, with key off grater value wrote on one side and it says Rochester Products Division on the other side.. the same for the round key.

Ghost Post · Poncho Master!

As noted above, the '69 and up cars had the square keys to fit the column ignition switches..

Both styles were/are available w/ the same keyway so blanks of both styles can be used in either ignition if cut to suit the individual switch interior pinning codes..

The key blanks w/ the maple leaf were available from Dominion Lock or some other Canadian company...may still even be available today!.

1 QWK 67 · Veteran Member

67acadiansd wrote:

...well you folks told me to look for the build sheet under the dash and seats, no luck

Just wanted to make sure you were looking in the right spot for the build sheet. In 67 the build sheet would be found on top of the speedo cluster. You won't see it by looking under the dash, you need to remove the speedo housing screws and pull the top out gently. Slide you hand over the top of the housing and you should find it if it's still there. Might want to double check!!

since 1983 · Poncho Master!

thats it , if my memory is good , the square keys where introduced with the locking colum in 69 on the GM passenger cars !