Sold new in Quebec.

Thats a cool piece of Pontiac history there my friend. I hope it gets a worthy restoration some day !

The rust and damage .. i've dealt with worse for less reason than saving a beauty like this. First call would be to a chassis builder for a full replacement frame. No point even discussing trying to save this one. The sheet metal ... It would be hours and hours slaving over a cold shrinker/stretcher ... but nothing really all that complicated .... it's not a unibody with crumple zones after all. But the price ... that's a deal killer. I'm not sure what the OP was thinking, rebuilding the engine with the rest of the car in this state. It's obvious he want's to recup the engine investment .... but that's not gonna happen. The only hope i see for this car is that someone trades for it ... noone's going to pay 10K for an uncertified rebuilt engine ... and that's all that's really of value

What he said^^^^^^^^^

It may be a weakness of mine but on a rare car like this, I seem to put a lot of value on a pedigree.

*shrug* what is a pedigree, 'cept words on paper. Pedigree is fine for show dogs and trailer queens ... but for me, what's important is the personal pleasure something brings. My sister pays big bucks for her tea cup poodles ... but the dog doesn't know he's not supposed to lick his privates. This car wasn't build to sit in a museum. I was built to drive the road ... to own the road.

is keeping that car on the road, restored and in good condition important? Hell yes. I'd happily volunteer my time to help. Endorsing the OP's folly ... not so much. I throw the ball for my sister's dog too. In the end ... he's like every stray and pound mutt .... a dog.


It should be noted tho ... saving things that make no sense runs in my family. Mum once paid over $1000 in surgery and medication to save a $20 budgie.

Same complaints over and over again. Its to the point of being ridiculous. Is it that this written forum is an opportunity to pick someones vehicle apart and/or his advertising of it for sale at a price you won't pay reason for being verbally abusive. Its not just an opinion, as will be the answer to this, its that even though we all tend to have an avatar of some type we are all still anonymous hence we can say in written form what we wouldn't do to the individuals face. If you don't like the price, keep quiet, period, because your'e not an expert, even if you think you are. This is, as said, a fair amount of money when there are tons of these things around, at least 16 others. You also don't compare a rare big block car with a car of the same type with a small block. That would be about as dumb as comparing a 327 Chevelle with a Chevelle SS 396 or a 318 Cuda with a 440 Cuda. There has been a fair amount of discussion about frames on this site and we all know its just a Chevrolet frame, or, you can repair it. If the engine has been rebuilt and its the original then thats a bonus; hasn't anyone priced getting an engine rebuilt lately. It would appear from the pictures it has the original air cleaner and the last one I saw on ebay went for $450 so if the balance of the car is as original then its a fair price for what you get, ie 1 of 17. Obviously this will go to someone that can do much of the work himself and he/she will end up with a very nice vehicle even though they will have quite an investment in it. When its someone elses car its too much money however I noticed when these individuals are questioned as to the value of their car, even if it isn't collectible or original, then skys the limit.

427strato I couldn't have said it better.Trowto took a lot of S**T.Hope all goes well.

I dunno...  I mean guys... take a trip to moparland for a while and see what a totally trashed and rusted Hemi or Sixpack car goes for these days, even with the market down from what it was.  To get one of these cars you have to spend a lot of dough up front to get one, and then spend a whole lot more to get it to where you want it.  And they do!

If you think that this Parisienne needs too much work to fix, check out the Barrelcuda:

http://agar.homestead.com/myridesbarrelcuda.html

I can't help but think that a 1 of 17 427 Parisienne would be one of the "holy grails" in CP land.   It's gonna take a lot of time/money to do this one right, but for the person who does, they can be guaranteed that they will have probably the only one left in existance (or at least one of 2 or 3, I'm sure).

Yeah, it's expensive to buy a car for 10 grand and then throw another 20 to 30 at it, but it is an expensive hobby and sometimes the rare/desirable cars are just plain out of reach for the average guy (they are for me).  It's just the way it is.

Think of it this way, how low does the price have to go before somebody buys the car for the motor and parts out the rest... then it's gone forever!  Sometimes you need to keep the price high to ensure that the person who buys it will be able to afford do it right.

Maybe we're comparing apples to bananas here as CP's don't have the popularity of Mopars, but let me just say this... try to find another one in better shape that is for sale for less money...

Just my random opinions and thoughts... not meant to offend anybody...

73SC wrote:

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That's the beauty of living in a Democracy, everybody gets to voice their opinion and nobody is right.

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"Right on Ray"

I don't think we are really trashing the car.  Just saying our opinion.  Last time I checked we could and still can, that's all of us. Yup I can buy it and not miss the money, not because I am rich, just careful with money, same as a lot of other members on this site I am sure. While reading the posts, have gathered all feel really strongly about buying & saving this car.  We are 100% correct, but one must spend wisely.

 

Of course you are trashing the car.  Lets see what you have to offer that the rest of us can trash.  Lets hope its not  a 1970 or later because we know that they have no value unless its a 454 car; period.  I don't know why the pictures look as good as they do however they can hide a tremendous amout of flaws.  What rare car can you purchase for ten thou or less?  All I can see is a bunch of cheap, hipocritacal characters that can only cut up another persons vehicle because they have a non original car and can't stand the fact there could be a good original out there that they don't have the dollars or understanding to restore.  Like I said in a previous post;  its easy to comment when its annonymous.  I'm obviously pro 68 because I have one however I try to keep that from influencing my opinion;  this is a rare car and the individual that owns it is certainaly marketing it to the best of his ability and beyond.

in my opinion, thats a 5k car, and thats being very fair. but again, thats just my opinion. still a nice car, all in all.

If one feels that strongly about this car's value etc, that being what the seller's asking price is..... Stand up and buy it..... For those of us who know better and what it's worth, rare or not, feel free to comment.  As I am sure, a number of members, have very mint and original cars in our collection.