The white '66 GP 396-4 speed at Red Deer auction March 18

Fake68 · Guru

RE: The white '66 GP 396-4 speed at Red Deer auction March 18

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

That would be fine! I'd love to see someone on here, or someone I know well end up with the car.

It's actually time you had a car like that. You'd never go back to those "little" X and A bodies!

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Car will not sell Owner is a car expert know the value of everything It will not sell...

67curves · Addicted!

This is a 3 day sale. Fri. Sat. Sun. Speed and custom show and sale. George Barris is going to be there. May be some rich buyers there.

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

It will be real interesting to see what it goes for for my personal info. I mean lets face it other than the 396 with four speed and the fact the the body/interior looks good it ain't all that special. It doesn't appear to have any other real cool options and it ain't all that original with the Grande Prix emblem in the grille, aftermarket steering wheel and the non original engine stuff.

If it goes for big money then I guess an actual correct well optioned car would be worth even more.(he said greedily)

Also remember this is Alberta where there tends to be more money than sense.

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Thursday 17th of March 2011 11:54:46 AM

Elroy · Poncho Master!

oh ya Dave especially with you there ! Are you guys wanting the car for these prices or are you speculating ?

67curves · Addicted!

I won't be in the bidding circle Elroy because it is not a 67

degodoug · Addicted!

66 Grande guy wrote:

It will be real interesting to see what it goes for for my personal info. I mean lets face it other than the 396 with four speed and the fact the the body/interior looks good it ain't all that special. It doesn't appear to have any other real cool options and it ain't all that original with the Grande Prix emblem in the grille, aftermarket steering wheel and the non original engine stuff.

If it goes for big money then I guess an actual correct well optioned car would be worth even more.(he said greedily)

Also remember this is Alberta where there tends to be more money than sense.

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Thursday 17th of March 2011 11:54:46 AM

A lot of really good points in this comment Ken. Can I retract my guess and
make it a little lower, lol. It appears to me, after having wanted to find
a nice driver, that prices are definitely coming down hard. With the exception
of the guys who think their parts cars are worth big $$$, or well overpriced
restoration products, the market is shot. Those guys will either have to drop
the dollars on their crap or hold it for another upswing, which may never happen.
There are plenty of cars under the $15g mark that would have claimed
another 25% or more a couple of years ago......time to buy!!

grande jim · Guru

Last summer when he listed it as open to offers.... I phoned him and offered $10,000 cash and he turned me down. Not that I was trying to insult him, that's all I had to offer...and it was open to offers. I'm pretty sure it will have a reserve on it. There are a lot of things about this car that make it NOT FACTORY CORRECT as a restoration, and we have spoke about all of them in another thread so I don't feal the need to repeat myself. It is still a nice car, that looks good and for someone wanting it for what it is...I think they will get a nice car. For me I wouldn't pay more than the $10,000 I offered him because, it would take another $10,000 to put the car back to Factory correct..the way I would want a 396 car. As Ken mentioned there is really nothing special about this car as far as options other than the 396. I just can't see it being worth over $16,000 fully restored. So that being said ,the numbers for me, don't add up. I hope it finds a good home !!!!

-- Edited by grande jim on Thursday 17th of March 2011 08:29:32 PM

tin indian · Poncho Master!

wasnt that car listed somewhere last year for $22500. ? i think i seen it on cardomain or something like that

grande jim · Guru

tin indian wrote:

wasnt that car listed somewhere last year for $22500. ? i think i seen it on cardomain or something like that

Yes ...it started out open to offers I think and then went to $25,000 and then to $22,500

Jonno · Poncho Master!

I think the big thing that makes this stand out apart, aside from the 396, is the fact it is a factory 4 speed.

Throw a very nice colour combination into the mix, and as Carl Stevenson says, how much is it going to cost you to build one.

Jonno · Poncho Master!

Tonites the night!

Elroy, are you there yet?

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

I am hoping someone will be able to post the price, and also the info as to who buys it if so.

Elroy · Poncho Master!

Jonno, tryin to get there havin a crazy day though... everybodys comin home this weekend so we will have to see how it goes....

Jonno · Poncho Master!

No pressure buddy, good luck!

Elroy · Poncho Master!

had the kids and grandkids come out so no carshow this weekend !

67custom · Guru

Went up to $11000.00 but passed

degodoug · Addicted!

....Thanks for the update Gerry....only...$11,000......4-speed, big block, nice condition, although not numbers matching....even so.....it's a buyers market for sure!

-- Edited by degodoug on Saturday 19th of March 2011 05:13:12 PM

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73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Just thought I would copy my post from earlier this week on another thread:

The last appraisal I saw on a 1970 Pontiac 454 was done in September 2009. It was a top condition restored Laurentian and It was set at $12,000 appraised for insurance value in Toronto.

At Auction near Parry Sound ON in the fall of 2010 an original condition 427 Survivor Grand Parisienne 2 dr. Hardtop sold for just under $4,000.

There was also a survivor 427 69 2+2 that sold out of Cahtsworth ON in the fall 2010 for $4,000. Engine was not in the car but was provided with sale.

All cars above were auto trans cars.

Jonno · Poncho Master!

Thanks for the follow up 67custom.

Only bid to $11,000. Whew!

Carl Stevenson, time to make a phone call!

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

That kind of depresses me somehow. Oh well we were in this for the fun of it not the investment right?

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Sunday 20th of March 2011 12:35:06 PM

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

73SC wrote:

Just thought I would copy my post from earlier this week on another thread:

The last appraisal I saw on a 1970 Pontiac 454 was done in September 2009. It was a top condition restored Laurentian and It was set at $12,000 appraised for insurance value in Toronto.
At Auction near Parry Sound ON in the fall of 2010 an original condition 427 Survivor Grand Parisienne 2 dr. Hardtop sold for just under $4,000.
There was also a survivor 427 69 2+2 that sold out of Cahtsworth ON in the fall 2010 for $4,000. Engine was not in the car but was provided with sale.
All cars above were auto trans cars.

Hey ray any more info on the 66 427 car (like in the registry?) That is only the 2nd surviver 427 car I have heard of.

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Sunday 20th of March 2011 12:37:03 PM

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Jonno wrote:

Thanks for the follow up 67custom.

Only bid to $11,000. Whew!

Carl Stevenson, time to make a phone call!

You can call him til hell freezes over He wants alot for it It was for sale 3 years ago