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Is the sheet metal shifter hump screwed down or welded on to the floor pan?



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Spot welded over an awful torch cut hole then seam sealed.





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yes nod.gif what he said



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my '68 chevelle....welded.



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SD 396 wrote:

Spot welded over an awful torch cut hole then seam sealed.



 is this true for later years also? when did that start? yuch



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Perfect, thanks. Just like Novas then. Hack an awful ugly hole in the floor with the torch and then put a hump on to hide it!

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I didn't leave the ugly hole in my car. I just couldn't do it. Mine had the side cut out of it for (likely) an aftermarket shifter. I got an uncut hump from another car and when I replaced it I cleaned up the factory hack job.
 More over-restoration.



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When I converted my 65 I couldn't bring myself to cut the hole with a torch either. I was going for the authentic look but I have my limits too!

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This is something that I will have to do on my 69 beaumont  four speed conversion. Thanks for the info.  Is there any factory marks on the floor to tell were the hole and hump should go ?



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Yeah, well my friend has a 68 Beaumont, the previous owner's put a 4 speed into the car it was originally an automatic. They just cut open the hole and pealed the metal back enuf to stick the shifter through and they didn't put a hump to hide the ugly hole. They left it like that......

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so using a torch to cut holes is not a odd thing then. when i took my 63 acadian taigate apart the access holes for the backing nuts for said trim were all cut with a torch.

carl is your nephews wagon the same?

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This is something that I will have to do on my 69 beaumont  four speed conversion. Thanks for the info.  Is there any factory marks on the floor to tell were the hole and hump should go ?

  There are no marks in the floor. You will need the measurements from an existing car.



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so using a torch to cut holes is not a odd thing then. when i took my 63 acadian taigate apart the access holes for the backing nuts for said trim were all cut with a torch.

carl is your nephews wagon the same?

 Good question, I will try to remember to ask him.



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timbuk wrote:

SD 396 wrote:

Spot welded over an awful torch cut hole then seam sealed.



 is this true for later years also? when did that start? yuch


LATE 1970's MALIBU'S WERE DONE THIS WAY AS WELL.

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SD 396 wrote:
Beaumont4008 wrote:

This is something that I will have to do on my 69 beaumont  four speed conversion. Thanks for the info.  Is there any factory marks on the floor to tell were the hole and hump should go ?

  There are no marks in the floor. You will need the measurements from an existing car.

 Should have known it would not  be so easy.  Thanks.  My sons 67 camaro had dimples in the sheet metal from the factory for all the screw holes and cut outs for the console and shifter install.



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Beaumont4008 wrote:
SD 396 wrote:
Beaumont4008 wrote:

This is something that I will have to do on my 69 beaumont  four speed conversion. Thanks for the info.  Is there any factory marks on the floor to tell were the hole and hump should go ?

  There are no marks in the floor. You will need the measurements from an existing car.

 Should have known it would not  be so easy.  Thanks.  My sons 67 camaro had dimples in the sheet metal from the factory for all the screw holes and cut outs for the console and shifter install.

 Bolt up the tranny and mark the floor pan from below centered where the shifter will sit.



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Does the hump not have any grooves or anything to match grooves in the floor?

The first gen Nova and Acadian are easy. The hump will only sit flat in one spot.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Does the hump not have any grooves or anything to match grooves in the floor?

The first gen Nova and Acadian are easy. The hump will only sit flat in one spot.

  I didn't see any marks or grooves. Mind you I put mine back where the old one was but there didn't seem to be anything.

  I may have measurements for a console hump.......somewhere. When my 69 is apart this winter I will measure the bench seat hump too. It won't be for a while but at least I will have it.



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I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned taking measurements. .



-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Thursday 10th of November 2011 12:23:18 AM

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The reason I originally asked this question was for my friend in Nebraska for a 68 Chevelle but now there seems to be others interested in it as well.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

The reason I originally asked this question was for my friend in Nebraska for a 68 Chevelle but now there seems to be others interested in it as well.

  Is he doing a bench seat or bucket seat car?



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You know, I forgot to ask!

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Did you get the information you needed Carl?



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Whoops, I forgot about this.... I sent him an email and asked him. We'll see what I get back. Thanks for the nudge to wake me up!

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