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A photo of my dad's 58 Pontiac


I'm not sure if I posted this before. Here is a photo of my Grandparents posing in front of my parent's 58 Pontiac. This is the only photo I know of that shows the whole car. It was Turquoise blue and white. Can anyone determine what model it was? I think it was a Laurentian. **EDIT - judging by the side trim I think I'm pretty safe in saying it was a Laurentian **

 

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Cool,  Yes ultra rare Laurentian 2dr HT.  NOT a parisienne

Equvilent to the Belair 2dr HT sport coupe

Note the belair style roof(taller and not as long,  w/belair style c-pillar trim

 Not to be confused with the Impala and parisienn, they would be the upper level.  roof was more chopped and shorter.

 

That was one rare car,  canadian #s on it would be problably under 1000 built for sure.   Very educated guess anyway.

 

TODD,  the brochure photo above does not show this car,  only shows it in a sedan.  must be on another page of the brochure



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 Todd!   The car is very close to the water!   Did they live in Morris Manitoba?  rofl.gif



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haha. Nope this was taken on Ipperwash beach back when you could actually drive on the beach. It seemed to be a popular hangout for my parents and grandparent. We have lot's of home movies showing the 69 Pontiac driving on the beach.

As for it being a rare car I really wish we had some paperwork with a VIN. I'd gladly pay for the GM docs. Actually, I have the VIN for the 69 Pontiac dad had. I should send for those.


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Dad's 58 would have been the same as the yellow one shown in the brochure:

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These old photos are priceless. Wish I had more of our families cars.

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No,  its a sport coupe  HT.  Pretty sure there are NO door frames.  Side door glass is rolled down,  rear is up.  Its a HT for sure.

 

the 2dr Post sedan would not be anywhere near as rare as the HT sport coupe



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427carl wrote:

 Todd!   The car is very close to the water!   Did they live in Morris Manitoba?  rofl.gif


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Todd Am I seeing chrome "eye" lids on the headlamps[ likely T-3's] & whl. discs could be "OLDS" with the spinners????

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I don't see a model number for a Laurentian 2 door hardtop:confuse

1958
7141-pathfinder 6 cyl 2 door sedan
7149-pathfinder 6 cyl 4 door sedan
7171-pathfinder 6 cyl delivery
7191-pathfinder 6 cyl 2 door wagon (795 produced)confirmed
7193-pathfinder 6 cyl 4 door wagon
7241-pathfinder 8 cyl 2 door sedan
7249-pathfinder 8 cyl 4 door sedan
7271-pathfinder 8 cyl delivery
7291-pathfinder 8 cyl 2 door wagon
7293-pathfinder 8 cyl 4 door wagon
7541-strato chief 6 cyl 2 door sedan    (3004 produced)
7549-strato chief 6 cyl 4 door sedan
7593-strato chief 6 cyl 4 door wagon
7641-strato chief 8 cyl 2 door sedan
7649-strato chief 8 cyl 4 door sedan
7693-strato chief 8 cyl 4 door wagon
7731-laurentian 6 cyl 2 door sedan business
7739-laurentian 6 cyl 4 door hardtop
7741-laurentian 6 cyl 2 door sedan 
7749-laurentian 6 cyl 4 door sedan
7793-laurentian 6 cyl 4 door wagon
7831-laurentian 8cyl 2 door sedan business   (582 produced)
7839-laurentian 8 cyl 4 door hardtop   (784 produced)
7841-laurentian 8 cyl 2 door sedan 
7849-laurentian 8 cyl 4 door sedan
7893-laurentian 8 cyl 4 door wagon
7747-parisienne 6 cyl 2 door hardtop  (525 produced)
7767-parisienne 6 cyl 2 door convertible  (export 46 LHD)301
7847-parisienne 8 cyl 2 door hardtop  1226
7867-parisienne 8 cyl 2 door convertible 759



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7741 and 7841  i think

they call it a sedan,  but if you look there is a separate # for a business sedan(that would be a post car)

It is the picture of the one with the skiiers behind it in the brochure photo



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Dad liked to put a few custom touches on his cars. He had the eyelids on the 69 Pontiac as well. As for the hubcaps I couldn't tell if they were Olds or Dodge Lancer spinners. I seem to recall dad mentioning he had a set stolen- not sure if it was this car or the 62 Impala he had after. I also think this one had duals and glasspacks and my mom wasn't impressed..biggrin

 

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Todd Am I seeing chrome "eye" lids on the headlamps[ likely T-3's] & whl. discs could be "OLDS" with the spinners????


 



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Geez, I stripped and crushed one of these in high school as a parts car for my 58 Bel Air Hardtop- still got the Bel Air though! I got the Pontiac for free. It was in primer with no engine or tranny. Original Rio Red and White car with a Silver and Grey Interior-definitely should have kept the tags off that one!

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Yup,  when i saw this pic,  it was the first thing i thought of.

Probably the only other one i have seen.

You would agree that it is a HT for sure, not a post??????



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Todd, this is a great picture! I've looked at it many times. Just noticed that there is a right fender mirror mounted too!

It sure looks like a HT to me.

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The car is 100% a 2 dr. sedan with the same roof line as the one I posted below. Sedan roof stands up more.

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Green car below is a Hardtop. HT roof line is a bit sleeker.

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..when I was in high school in King City ON, my best buddy's grandfather in SK died and willed him his mint, black and white '58 Pontiac Laurentian 4-door sedan with a 261/3-on-the-tree combo. When it was shipped to him in ON he drove it over to my place as soon as he got it plated. Even though the car was about 8 or 9 years old, it looked like it had never been driven. Seats were mint and so was the body. And that 261 would go pretty well for a six...! My buddy wasn't a very good driver (actually drove better with a few beers in him than he did sober). One night he put it in a ditch going to a party..! Of course my dad and his dad came and got us out...



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73SC wrote:

The car is 100% a 2 dr. sedan with the same roof line as the one I posted below. Sedan roof stands up more.

IMG_9204.JPG

 

Green car below is a Hardtop. HT roof line is a bit sleeker.

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-- Edited by 73SC on Wednesday 23rd of November 2011 10:09:30 PM


 Ray, the 2nd pic. is a parisienne, is it not??? Todds pic. shows diff roof line , BUT the trim is diff on back pillar than the beige one & matches up w/ the 2dr. htp. in brochure. I'm going with its a 2dr. Htp & a rare one!!!!!



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Yes Pete the cars pictured are actually a Strato Chief and Parisienne. The roof lines are what is important. Sorry I don't have photos in my archives of a HT Laurentian and post Laurentian. In 1958 Parisienne was actaully a Laurentian with higher level trim.

The post car has a different roof and glass which is what I was illustrating. Todd's Dad's car is like the Strato Chief's roof and glass.



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Ray, the Laurentian and Parisienne Hard tops are 2 totally different roof lines. Just like the Bel-Air and Impala HT roof lines.
Laurentian HT and post are very similar in roof lines.
Todd's dad's car is a hard top. Look at the window opening, no door frame behind the vent window.

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My page shows you Chevy and Pontiac models that year:

http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/1958MODELNUMBERS.html


These are the export figures:



MODEL
DEL RAY SERIES
1141 4 LHD
1149 8 LHD
1149 DOM (Diplomatic sales, a seperate model!) 1 RHD
1193 (4-door Yeoman Wagon) 2 LHD
1171 SEDAN DELIVERY 1 LHD

BISCAYNE SERIES
1541 1 LHD
1549 20 LHD 58 RHD
1549 DOM 4 RHD
1593 (4-door Brookwood wagon) 2 LHD 5 RHD

1649 2 LHD
1693 (4-door Brookwood wagon) 2 LHD

BEL AIR SERIES
1739 16 LHD
1747 (Impala Sport Coupe) 2 LHD
1749 30 LHD 235 RHD
1749 DOM 1 RHD
1767 (Impala Convertible) 1 LHD
1793 (Nomad Wagon) 2 LHD


1839 8 LHD
1847 4 LHD
1849 6 LHD 35 RHD
1867 7 LHD

ALL 6-CYLINDER: 89 LHD; 304 RHD
ALL V-8: 29 LHD; 35 RHD

CKD (all RHD) for assembly
1549X4 (Biscayne 4door Sedan) for AUSTRALIA 1,152
1693X9 (V-8 Brookwood Wagon) for SOUTH AFRICA 504
1849X5 (V-8 Bel Air 4-door Sedan) for NEW ZEALAND 384

TOTAL 2,040

ALL LHD CHEVROLET 118
ALL RHD CHEVROLET 2,379



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Ray, the Laurentian and Parisienne Hard tops are 2 totally different roof lines. Just like the Bel-Air and Impala HT roof lines.
Laurentian HT and post are very similar in roof lines.
Todd's dad's car is a hard top. Look at the window opening, no door frame behind the vent window.


 Going to have to AGREE to disagree on this one.  handshake.gif



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MY EYES DON'T SEE A FRAME AROUND THE DOOR GLASS. I WOULD SAY IT IS A HARDTOP. YOU CAN SEE THE FRAME AT THE TOP OF THE VENT WINDOW, BUT IT DOES NOT CONTINUE OVER THE TOP OF THE ROLL DOWN WINDOW.



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Never knew that there was different roof lines. You can realy see the difference on these chevy's.

Belair hardtop windows up, look how large that rear side window is . This pic identical to Tods dad's roof line.

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Belair with windows down

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Impala with way smaller rear side window,

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