1967 Pontiac Parisienne 2+2 purchase opportunity.

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

1967 Pontiac Parisienne 2+2 purchase opportunity.

Leo2+2 · Guru

Hi Darth

Welcome to the site. First, here are some pictures of my 67 2+2 but I have a lot more which I can send you if you PM me.

http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t55121756/october-2013-feature-car/

I have the values as well but it's not as simple as there are many variables to consider. Again, PM me and I can try to assist you.

Cheers,

Leo

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Darth Menace wrote:
Hey guys, I was directed here by another member, and I am just wanting some info on a purchase opportunity.
There is an older guy I know, he is a first/only owner of a Parisienne 2+2. He is a family friend.
When he saw I bought a 69 GTO clone he asked if i'd be interested in buying his 2+2.
He said he has 4 vehicles and on pension they are expensive to insure/drive.
His 2+2 is one of his daily summer drivers. nice 2+2 hardtop driver
He said it is something like a turqoise. And it is a 396.

His might not be a convertible biggrin biggrin biggrin

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Here's a link to the brochure:

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/Canada/1967%20Pontiac%20Brochure/dirindex.html

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

No, no...., big mistake. Avoid all big block 67 2+2"s, especially in turquoise.

What's his number?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

cdnpont wrote:
No, no...., big mistake. Avoid all big block 67 2+2"s, especially in turquoise.

What's his number.

GOOD ADVICE MARK !! He will hate it...... if he's used to A-Bodies lol save the day

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

So I see some headlights up/down and some side by side? Arent the ones above the others the 65 model? I'm just confused is all as you can tell.

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

his number is 867-5309. His name is Tommy, give him a call
427carl wrote:
cdnpont wrote:
No, no...., big mistake. Avoid all big block 67 2+2"s, especially in turquoise.

What's his number.
GOOD ADVICE MARK !! He will hate it...... if he's used to A-Bodies lol save the day

-- Edited by Darth Menace on Monday 30th of December 2013 10:23:36 PM

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I try to help Carl.

Lets see,

A nice, original owner Turquoise 2+2 hardtop, 396.

Not perfect, but original, with all trim and numbers intact, little or no rust...

$16-18K ?

First and most important, check the frame for rust, or any rust repairs. Bad frame usually means body issues, possibly hidden under plastic.

Price drops as rust presents itself as well as poor bodywork, missing trim, non numbers matching, etc.

Good luck, sounds interesting!

JC2+2 · Poncho Master!

Darth Menace wrote:
So I see some headlights up/down and some side by side? Arent the ones above the others the 65 model? I'm just confused is all as you can tell.

I can see how you'd be confused. The one with side by side headlights is actually a '68.

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

So were the headlights different options? When I showed him this he said it was almost a clone of it: farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2588737742_7158a76f88.jpg

but from what little info I had I thought he was on crack because I thought the earlier ones has the headlights up/down and the 67 had the side by side front bumper look of the lemans/gto/tempest

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

JC2+2 wrote:
Darth Menace wrote:
So I see some headlights up/down and some side by side? Arent the ones above the others the 65 model? I'm just confused is all as you can tell.
I can see how you'd be confused. The one with side by side headlights is actually a '68.

cool thanks for clarifying that for me. So I guess he was right saying it was like the picture I just posted

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

Johnny Ringo wrote:
Welcome to the site Darth. Excuse some of the comedians up top, they got excited when you said it has a 396. Canadian Parisienne 2+2's started in 1967 and went on till 1970. The American Pontiac wore the 2+2 nameplate 64-66. So if you seen a 65 2+2 it was a american car. And since you said this one has a 396 then 4sure it is Canadian cause our cars used the chev frame and powertrain unlike the american Pontiac. Headlights up/down is 67, headlights across is '68 - 70. 67 had a T- bar shifter in the console, 68 up has a horseshoe type shifter. My suggestion is go see the car quick, take lots of pictures, tag info , really check the body out for rust etc, any mods done to it, is the big air cleaner still on it , etc etc. Good luck and let us know with any questions as we have alot of Pontiac guys on this site !!!!!!

thanks for the info. This Canadian pontiac stuff is messed. If this doesn't work out then I will be banned from this site. :) Owning a 69 custom S just doesn't cut it here :)

I will get more info for sure, and if I can't swing it (or am not allowed) I can always pass his info on to others here if they want

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

And we get real interested when an original big block car gets mentioned. Not many of those built and a lot fewer still around. (thanks to aggressive "Carl Stevensoning" over the years. (otherwise known as yanking engines out for something else)

hawkeye5766 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Dont get cold feet just so fast,I just joined up and there are alot of great guys (gals) here willing to help,they just like to have fun doing it.It's a great source of info that you can find anywhere else.Good luck on the 2x2 ( cant find the damn pluss sign on the keyboard).

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Hi Darth, I'm glad to see you made it over here. I should have warned you about a few of the comedians here!

As stated, get pictures of the car. It's understandable if you don't want to post them online for fear of someone figuring out the who/what/where on the the car and scooping it out from under you.

The most important thing about this car would be the documentation. If he is original owner, hopefully he has the original paperwork. If not, it's a good investment to buy the GM Vintage vehicle documents which will confirm colours, options, as well as the original selling dealer etc. One of the most important sources of info outside of the GM stuff is the cowl/firewall tag. Copy down what it says and post it here, we can easily decode it.

norontcan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Here's a couple of pics of a 67 2+2 in the Wasaga Beach area.

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

hawkeye5766 wrote:
Dont get cold feet just so fast,I just joined up and there are alot of great guys (gals) here willing to help,they just like to have fun doing it.It's a great source of info that you can find anywhere else.Good luck on the 2x2 ( cant find the damn pluss sign on the keyboard).

I don't have cold feet really. More testing the waters. I just bought the 69 custom S (GOT clone) a few months ago and working on tinkering on that (ask Carl, he will know what i'm talking about:() It wasn't expensive by any means, but I have to pay that off before looking at the 2+2 unless I get it for a good deal. Plus i'm running out of garage space, I have 4 cars already. I am also in no rush, he is the only one that he has offered to sell it to, and it's not up for sale anywhere. The engine is original, or at least I think. He said nothing major has been done to it aside from the basic wear and tear repairs.

I should try for the Pawn Stars approach. "I want 15,000" , "Not in my lifetime, I will offer $4000"

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

Johnny Ringo wrote:
.....I know a guy not far from you Darth that drives a pale yellow 66 GP 396 and has a trailer with experience hauling home 67s, he might be interested if you pass on the car !!! My guess this mystery 396 2+2 has single exhaust, powerglide tranny, ps ,pb rear speaker and pw. Since it sounds like a one owner then the console door is bent from girlfriends sitting on it.

How would you guess the single exhaust, tranny, etc? I will ask for more pictures tomorrow

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Just a quick correction. US Pontiac 2+2's were made from 1964 - 1967, and Canadian 2+2's from 1967 - 1970. I think in the US they were Catalina 2+2's, and Canadian ones were Parisienne 2+2's from 1967 - 1969, and in 1970 it was only a 2+2 (no Parisienne).

While 1967 2+2's came in US & Canadian versions, little between the 2 is interchangable. While both have the louvers on the upper fenders, the louvers are different.

If you can get some photo's and a bit more info that would allow us to provide a bit more info on value. I know 1967 Canadian 2+2's were available in a wide variety of engine/transmission combinations, including a number of 6 cylinder cars around.

Darth Menace · Veteran Member

Johnny Ringo wrote:
.....I know a guy not far from you Darth that drives a pale yellow 66 GP 396 and has a trailer with experience hauling home 67s, he might be interested if you pass on the car !!! My guess this mystery 396 2+2 has single exhaust, powerglide tranny, ps ,pb rear speaker and pw. Since it sounds like a one owner then the console door is bent from girlfriends sitting on it.

once I get more info on it, I will PM you for his info if i decide against it. It looks nice, but isn't muscle car era enough for me. More of a cruiser look. Or buy it to flip it if he gives me the friendship discount :)

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Yes, N10 dual exhaust was an option which just seems so wrong on a big block.

I for one am itching to hear more about this car!

hawkeye5766 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Good to have you stick around so I'm not the only new kid on the block,there knowledge is intimidating considering I cant remember yesterday.But like I said there willing to help if you ask.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Johnny Ringo wrote:

seventy2plus2 wrote:
Just a quick correction.    US Pontiac 2+2's were made from 1964 - 1967, and Canadian 2+2's from 1967 - 1970.   I think in the US they were Catalina 2+2's, and Canadian ones were Parisienne 2+2's from 1967 - 1969, and in 1970 it was only a 2+2 (no Parisienne).
While 1967 2+2's came in US & Canadian versions, little between the 2 is interchangable.   While both have the louvers on the upper fenders, the louvers are different.
If you can get some photo's and a bit more info that would allow us to provide a bit more info on value.   I know 1967 Canadian 2+2's were available in a wide variety of engine/transmission combinations, including a number of 6 cylinder cars around.
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.........Ahh, I stand corrected, thanks. I always thought 66 was the last 2+2 in the USA,   but just did a quick check and yes in 67 it was a option on the car , not it's own model like the '66, and they dropped the option in 67 due to poor sales.   I actually never seen a 67 american 2+2 !!

There's a wrecking yard south of me in North Dakota that had a 67 2+2 in it for years. When I first saw the car likely 25 years ago, it still had the trim on it, the 428 fender emblems, but there was a hole where the hood tach had been and the powertrain as well as the 4 speed console were gone. I looked at that car lots...