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Post Info TOPIC: When was the 2+2 a trim level vs an option?


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When was the 2+2 a trim level vs an option?


In some years the 2+2 was a trim level (on the Catalina in the US, on the Parisenne in Canada).  In some years it was a standalone model.  I believe for 1969 its actually standalone.  It has its own section of the brochure and its own column in the technical specs, so it appears to be a peer equal to all of the other models, so far as I can tell.

Does anyone know though?  And how it might have changed year over year?



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In the US the 2+2 was only a model in 66, 64,65 and 67 were just an option

In Canada I'm not sure, 69 for sure had its own model designation

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RE Canadian cars, 1967-69 were called (and badged as) Parisienne 2+2's, whereas 1970 it was only called a 2+2.



-- Edited by seventy2plus2 on Wednesday 30th of November 2016 08:28:37 PM

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I assume you mean 67-69, but the 69 brochure sure seems to track it as a separate model. The word Parisienne does not appear on the 2+2 page, which consistently calls it the "Pontiac 2+2".



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In my GM Canada parts books, when decoding the VIN, for 67-69 it shows Parisienne 2+2.  For 1970, it shows 2+2.



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seventy2plus2 wrote:

In my GM Canada parts books, when decoding the VIN, for 67-69 it shows Parisienne 2+2.  For 1970, it shows 2+2.


 

my fisher body manual,chassis manual,owners manual and dealer brochure all list the 2+2 as a separate model

 

68s had both Parisienne and 2+2 emblems,69 and 70 did not

 



-- Edited by 2plus2 on Wednesday 30th of November 2016 11:17:23 PM

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seventy2plus2 wrote:

In my GM Canada parts books, when decoding the VIN, for 67-69 it shows Parisienne 2+2.  For 1970, it shows 2+2.


Yes, and both Parisienne 2+2 ('67 to '69) and 2+2 (1970) use the same body number or as they call it, Series Designation - 768. (Except '67 six cyl 2+2 - 767). Parisienne uses 764 and 763. So I'd say that makes them a separate model and not just a trim package or option.



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sounds like the middle letter of the series designation denotes if the standard engine is a 6 or 8. This was a pattern on chevies but not other GM's

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