67 Pontiac order form

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

67 Pontiac order form

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Awesome, thanks Carl!

I've decided to go back and re-order my Grande.

Any Idea on a delivery timeline?

Beaumont4008 · Uber Guru

M39 heavy duty powerglide is interesting and option k45 oil bath airCleaner . Never new they still,used in 67.

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Oil bath air cleaner was last used on non-truck sixes as an option through 1967. It was a standard item on the sixes through 1961.

Z04 HD Chassis Equipment added a 12-bolt rear, F40 suspension and also added a front stabilizer bar (F58) to those models were it was omitted (Strato Chief & Laurentian 6-cylinder sedans). Included with Police & Taxi versions and available only on Strato Chief & Laurentian.

B01 HD Body Equipment was really redundant on upper-series models as they already came with more reinforced S-wire in the seat frame & (B55) additional padding.

M39 Powerglide was basically additional clutch pack friction material & higher pressure like the stronger (1.76 low) versions (i.e. 327 & 396 versions) but applies to the lighter duty six & 283 (1.82 low) version Powerglides.

Z46 Cranking Equipment was a rare one that was offered in 67/68 in Canada only. It consisted of T60 HD Battery, K79 Alternator, HD Battery Cables (bolt on?) & an Ultra High Starter.

C47 Underseat Heater was a rare Canada-only option. Available on bench seat cars without power seat or floor shift, it was an additional heater core cut into the floorboards under the seat.

norontcan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Learnt a few things just reading the form ( for example you could get the paint divider trim without the vinyl top or 2 tone....atleast it appears that way )
The M39 was also a surprise. As were the shoulder harnesses.

Know which boxes, as a 20 year old, I would have ticked off and which I wish I was ticking off.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

CdnGMfan wrote:

C47 Underseat Heater was a rare Canada-only option. Available on bench seat cars without power seat or floor shift, it was an additional heater core cut into the floorboards under the seat.

I parted out a 67 Grande Parisienne 2 door hardtop bucket seat car with the underseat heater.

And yes, to the obvious question guys, it was a 396 car...

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

norontcan wrote:

Learnt a few things just reading the form ( for example you could get the paint divider trim without the vinyl top or 2 tone....atleast it appears that way )

I have read that divider trim option D99 is a unique Canadian option. I don't know for sure that is fact though.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

cdnpont wrote:

Awesome, thanks Carl!
I've decided to go back and re-order my Grande.
Any Idea on a delivery timeline?

Nice choice of engine you added Mark!

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

But I just remembered, you can't get L72 and A/C. What's your preference before they start building the car??? Do you want power, or do you want to be cool?

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

cdnpont wrote:

Awesome, thanks Carl!
I've decided to go back and re-order my Grande.
Any Idea on a delivery timeline?

Oh, and after checking it over your order has been rejected because you can't get 14" wheels with disc brakes. Sorry.

Mondo Poncho · Addicted!

Carl Stevenson wrote:
norontcan wrote:

Learnt a few things just reading the form ( for example you could get the paint divider trim without the vinyl top or 2 tone....atleast it appears that way )

I have read that divider trim option D99 is a unique Canadian option. I don't know for sure that is fact though.

The D99 two tone paint gets the same trim as vinyl top but the top is a textured grainy paint with strips that simulate the look of seams in a vinyl top. This car has D99 on the trim tag and the black painted top is original.

-- Edited by Mondo Poncho on Sunday 16th of July 2017 11:58:32 PM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

You can get the D99 on a single colour car though too John. That is the part that is apparently unique to Canada. They did it on Beaumonts and Acadians as an option also but the US guys say they never see it on Nova/Chevelle.

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Carl Stevenson wrote:
But I just remembered, you can't get L72 and A/C. What's your preference before they start building the car??? Do you want power, or do you want to be cool?

All right then Carl. Lets just go with the L36 and the standard wheels Carl.

Mondo Poncho · Addicted!

Carl Stevenson wrote:
You can get the D99 on a single colour car though too John. That is the part that is apparently unique to Canada. They did it on Beaumonts and Acadians as an option also but the US guys say they never see it on Nova/Chevelle.

That's interesting Carl. I've never seen that. The form pictured is for the full size line up but I suppose D99 could also be an option in the smaller cars. Did USA cars offer the painted on "vinyl" looking top as well? I had assumed that economics made sense in Canada to offer a cheaper way to get a black top and that's where the painted roof idea might have come from. After all, cheaper economics is the whole reason 7000 series Canadian Pontiacs came into being in the first place. D99 trim on a one colour car would look good though I would think. Never seen one of those.

-- Edited by Mondo Poncho on Monday 17th of July 2017 10:25:24 AM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Ok, you get black painted 15" rally wheels over your disc brakes

North · Guru

I've never heard of this painted roof to look like Vinyl, do you have any documentation it ever existed as a factory option?

In terms of the two-tone moldings being available as a stand alone option I believe it was so dealers could have tops installed by aftermarket suppliers, this was a common practice in Canada. Especially since only 2 colors of Cordova tops were offered by the factory. This order form is really useful because it lists all possible options but what is really needed to go with it is an Accessorizer Booklet that details all the restrictions and limitations between all those options.

Mondo Poncho · Addicted!

No I don't have any documentation. Maybe somebody else has more info? I'm just going off the info I've read and the gold car pictured with D99 on the cowl. It's a one family owned car since new. Both owners ladies - aunt bought the car and niece got it from her. According to the neice, it was repainted once about 12 years ago in original gold and the top was never touched. I could take some close up pics if anybody wants that. Could I be wrong about all this? Absolutely!

-- Edited by Mondo Poncho on Monday 17th of July 2017 11:58:20 AM

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

D99 2-tone moldings were offered on many Canadian-built GM cars. I think they offered it through about 1971. Because of our climate a vinyl roof cover can have a tough life and be even worse for the roof underneath. Chevrolet in the U.S. began offering fake vinyl top kits with wrinkle paint and fake seam strips. They gave the effect (almost) of a vinyl roof without the window flange rusting properties. That, plus it was an easy upgrade for a dealer to put on a used car.

Pretty well all of the mid to late 60s Chevelles & Beaumont RHD sedans that were exported came with the D99 moldings.

I remember a brand new base level 1971 Chevelle coupe in my neighborhood. It was the base model with no emblems, nameplates or chrome on the side. It just had wheel covers, whitewalls, plus D99 2-tone moldings which at the time I thought was weird. GM Canada also used to offer more 2-tone combos than in the U.S. and it wasn't that unusual to see a '67 Chevelle in Granada Gold, Verde Green, Butternut Yellow, Provincial White or Madeira Maroon with a shiny black painted roof.

A couple of Canadian-built 71 Bel Air coupes & a few Beaumonts & Chevelles showing D99 moldings (including a few RHD African cars):

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Mondo Poncho wrote:
D99 trim on a one colour car would look good though I would think. Never seen one of those.

Sept.13th 1966   76887     283ci          C    (521 red)   Saskatchewan link
2+2 2dr Hrdtp         M35 Provincial White                            67 poncho
#os701677     ,A02 A39 D99 J50 N40 P02 P77 U63 U80
Sept. 8th tag     ,Steeves Motors Ltd.-Dalhousie New Brunswick

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I'd love to feature this car. Any way to make this happen?

Mondo Poncho wrote:
No I don't have any documentation. Maybe somebody else has more info? I'm just going off the info I've read and the gold car pictured with D99 on the cowl. It's a one family owned car since new. Both owners ladies - aunt bought the car and niece got it from her. According to the neice, it was repainted once about 12 years ago in original gold and the top was never touched. I could take some close up pics if anybody wants that. Could I be wrong about all this? Absolutely!

-- Edited by Mondo Poncho on Monday 17th of July 2017 11:58:20 AM

North · Guru

Interesting, I suspect though that the simulated vinyl tops were some sort of dealer or jobber thing. I've never heard of any kind of factory program to that effect. Vinyl tops (Cordova was the trade mark name at GM) were very profitable for GM at $100-150 in 1960's dollars was probably the single most profitable option they had. Because Vinyl was so cheap (cost to GM at that time was about $1 per car of vinyl material) and the option price so high there were all kind of aftermarket tops and simulated tops by windshield shops, upholstery shops etc. Many worked with new car dealers to sell tops below factory cost or to offer colors and styles not factory offered.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Wasn't it true you could tell the difference between an OEM vinyl top and aftermarket by the number of seams? OEM had one and aftermarket had two?

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

A F**d dealership I worked for used a local shop to install vinyl tops on lot cars if a buyer wanted it.

I (the dealership's 17 year old car-jockey/lackey) used to install Canadian Tire pin-striping on cars if wanted by a buyer. biggrin

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

The D99 option was great if you wanted to be the grooviest dude on the block and install a Mod Top. Check it out: http://www.thecamaro.com/Vintage-Camaro-Ads-and-Documents/Promotion-Materials-Documents-Toys-and-More/?item=1967_Camaro_George_Barris_Mod_Tops_Brochure

Mondo Poncho · Addicted!

Hi Todd. I will send you a message.