davepl wrote:

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Yup, I'm looking at the picture right now. They show it being placed over the Tonawanda #1 sticker, and they show it (for what its worth) as a simple 427 sticker.

I'd be money it looks like this, but never having seen one, still don't know:

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 Those are the Chevrolet truck decals. That particular one was used 1968-69 on the light duty models, then replaced with a 400 decal for 1970-71.

If they were done in the reciprocal colour combination and used on Canadian Pontiacs it is news to me.

-- Edited by CdnGMfan on Tuesday 16th of January 2018 04:59:01 PM

That looks like good evidence to me !!

Before Bill stripped the car down I thought the sticker was strange.

I have seen a few on 396's but I think most must have fallen off so I always was curious.

They always had a CTC lok about them.

Mystery solved.

Thanks
Randy

Makes perfect sense as a Canadian Pontiac wouldn't want to display a Chevy sticker.......
And seeing as they were applied after the fact, the decal may or may not stick very well depending on how clean that spot was at the time and when in the assembly process it was applied....

I would bet that goofy orange and black one is the right one and the right font. That's based on an intense hunch, but it feels Canadian.

Yup, that's how the gold ones would look.

Is the orange any bigger? I'm thinking the gold style isn't actualy big enough to cover the Tonawanda #1 sticker!

No, I cannot imagine it would. The reason they're covering the Tonawanda sticker is so you don't have a Pontiac crest on the air cleaner and a bowtie on the valve cover.

In a Chevy it'd make perfect sense to not cover the Chevy sticker!

davepl wrote:

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Yup, that's how the gold ones would look.

Is the orange any bigger? I'm thinking the gold style isn't actualy big enough to cover the Tonawanda #1 sticker!

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 I was thinking the same thing Dave so I went out to my shed and took a photo of the Tonawanda #1 decal on my 454 as shown. It is actually smaller than I thought and I bet that engine displacement decal is an exact fit to cover it up.

 

I think they were missed on the line or dropped altogether.

This is very interesting to learn. After all these years learning about a decal used to cover the Tonawanda sticker on the big block Pontiacs is surprising. Surprising in that I don't remember seeing them on BBC Pontiacs (probably because I have really seen so few of them in person, especially when the cars were new and untouched). Using the displacement decal to cover the Chevrolet reference on the Tonawanda sticker is an expedient way to deal with them. The sixes & small blocks from St. Catherines came without the Chevrolet script since half of them went into Canadian Pontiacs. I do remember a friend's mother had a '66 Beaumont Custom sport coupe with a 230 six. She had owned the car since new. I expected to see an Econoflame 230 decal on the valve cover, but as sure as the sun there was a Turbo Thrift 230 decal instead. The engines came from the same factory whether in was Chevrolet or Canadian Pontiac, and in Oshawa these different makes all rolled down the line serially on the same assembly line using many common parts. It is easy to imagine the decal getting missed. I know a guy that bought a '66 Beaumont Sport Deluxe new in 1966. He later bought a '66 Beaumont Sport Deluxe 396 that was ordered new by his co-worker at GM Oshawa. The plan was for his SD396 to make it off the line without any engine displacement decals, but during the final inspection they caught it and made the decals go on.

I wonder how they handled a Chevy six in an Oldsmobile F-85 in the mid to late 60s? The six was supposed to be painted gold and decal-led as an Action Line Six.

It appears that the decal with displacement on the Pontiac valve cover was only for 1969 and only on big blocks (as per assembly manual)

427carl wrote:

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CdnGMfan wrote:

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This is very interesting to learn.

After all these years learning about a decal used to cover the Tonawanda sticker on the big block Pontiacs is surprising. 

x2       I helped a friend, change a head gasket on a 396 66 Parisienne in 1969 no stickers on it   

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                x2      never seen