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9428FCA8-5D0A-43D7-8A75-DD3F12DBA834.jpegE26013AC-19EC-40AD-8AD7-A539FEB8B223.jpegI have a 1969 Pontiac Grande Parisienne 4door 427 V8 335 hp , but it has dual exhaust. It is original and my grandfather bought it in 1969 from Roy Pett GM in Lindsay Ontario. It has never seen a Canadian winter. It went to Florida until 1981. Stored for 28 years it looks a little rough but it is all there. A little work , battery, cap , rotor and points cleaning it fired up and ran smooth. Needs a new vinyl roof and paint. Some minor mechanical work. All Items like power windows, am/fm radio,lights, brakes are in good order. I do need a new left front courtesy marker lens. Wheel skirts are repairable but new or better ones would be better. If anyone has these items available. I know there were very few if these made. I have an original bill of sale.

 

 



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Welcome here, you've come to the right place for this car!

By chance is it green?



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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
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Welcome !

What a cool car.

I may be able to help you with the used parts.

Please post some pictures if you can.

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Welcome aboard. Do you have any photos you can share? You can also (for a fee) get all the docs on your car from GM Vintage Vehicle Services. You'll get production date, sale date, selling dealer, option list and production numbers. Well worth the cost.

https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/



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Congratulations on preserving this rare and interesting car. The 69 GP 4 door ht looks really nice in my opinion. What is the color combination inside and out? 

My 69 Parisienne 2 dr has exactly the same powertrain as yours, 427/335 HP engine with T400 trans and optional N10 dual exhaust. 



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By courtesy front lights do you mean the parking lights or the side marker on the front edge of the fender? regardless both those lenses are identical to US models as are the fender skirts, all are often available on ebay at low prices.

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Welcome! Your grandfather had fine taste in automobiles.

Pictures please? I have never seen one in person... how's it drive?



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Thanks

I posted a picture.

silver with blue 



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Wow.........VERY cool car.

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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
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Love your car. You are very fortunate to have retained it in your family all these years. 



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Great car, nice to see a survivor 427 Canadian car, any underhood photos?



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Nice colour combination not seen too often. Would look fantastic cleaned up with the windows down.



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Here is a comparable American model, a 69 Bonneville 4dr hardtop.  This one is also very original (including paint, interior etc).  The big visual difference being a Bonneville is the wheelbase and overall length are six inches greater (119"-125", 217"-223.5") all this extra space turns up in the trunk, interior dimensions are identical.  This one is a brougham model so it has a velour cloth type seating instead of vinyl.  It has a strange color combination of Expresso brown with Black Cordova top and dark green interior.

Photos are a bit kind, zero rust or accidents but the factory applied paint is in need of a respray, interior is really nice but that velour type cloth is stained beyond help I suspect.  Engine is all virgin other than I pulled it to redo the seals and repaint.  The only internal work was replacing the timing gear with an NOS one as a precaution (infamous Pontiac nylon teeth!).  Very heavily optioned car, basically every possible option except the 428 HO (it has the standard 428-360 engine), automatic leveling rear shocks, auto temp control (it has regular manual AC). 

I wish it had your color scheme, which I assume was that classic combo of silver with black top and guts.   

 

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John, could a dye be applied to the upholstery to cover up the stains?


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Silver with a blue vinyl roof and a blue nylon upholstery  interior.

something I have never seen before or again.

 



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I'm with you there, that is an extremely unusual combination.  What's your plan for the car? Drive as is, restore?

Have you considered buying the GM documentation for it? I think it costs a bit under $100 Canadian. I think they will tell you how rare that powertrain combination is in that body style.



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Love the car, and the emotional connection is just icing on the cake. If it lived in Florida, you may have some hidden corrosion inside the doors, and body panels - the extremely salinity in the vapour down here would attack the unfinished metal inside crevices and voids. Pop one of the door cards and see if theres anything going on in there. A squirt of Rustoleum will bring it to a halt, if theres anything present, and it probably wouldnt advance very much in the Ontario climate, anyway.

Newer stuff has better seam sealing and enclosed voids filled with gel to dampen noise and keep the rust from getting started.

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North, for the pic you posted, is that your Bonne? I really like it!

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Thanks

I posted a picture.

silver with blue 

 Oops, missed that post, Silver with blue on blue is even nicer.  I've always had a soft spot for silver cars with colored interiors or tops.  A friend had a 70 judge in silver with a blue interior, looked amazing with the softray glass.  Another GTO i recall was in Arizona, a silver 69 with a red interior, really sharp too!



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North, for the pic you posted, is that your Bonne? I really like it!

 Yup, I also have a bonnie ragtop and a bonnie wagon.

 

The regular bonneville interior was vinyl but on the hardtops the brougham's used that really soft cloth, almost like velour.  My ragtop is a brougham also but on ragtops they used real leather. 

 

This pic gives you a better idea what the interior is supposed to look like on the 4 door.  Back seat looks like new, problem with the front seat is the original owner was a rancher and he wore those oiled cotton great coats which darkened the front seat (not to mention what looks to be a ball point pen leak).

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Here is a Silver 427 GP with a full load I parted a few yrs ago.car.jpg



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Anything left?



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Most of it.

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