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I think we need North (John) to post a photo of his. Your location A won't work as things would be bumping into it all the time.

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I think we need North (John) to post a photo of his. Your location A won't work as things would be bumping into it all the time.

I agree Clint. I thought this would be an easy one, but I guess not. I have done some research on the switch you sent me, and it was the first design used for Pontiacs from 67-69. All models used it. Not sure if Canadian cars and American cars used the same location or not, but I have found different locations were used on different models. In 67 GTOs had them mounted on the back of the glove box. The 69 Grand Prix had it in the glove box. I can put it wherever, just thought as long as I was doing it, I would put it in the factory location. Also, found out, dealers could install them too. So, who knows if location was up to the installer? Not sure if the American glove box might have different indents over the Canadian ones? The questions continue



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Robert, did I never sell you an assembly manual for your 69? Are you aware I have those? If you ever have an interest in purchasing one, shoot me a PM please.

Anyway, Clint sent me a PM reminding me that the assembly manual likely has the answer, and it does. I'm sorry to only post this now, I've had the answer to your initial question under my nose the whole time and it totally escaped me!

Here you are, the switch location for the electric trunk button on a 1969 full size Canadian Pontiac.






-- Edited by 4SPEED427 on Friday 17th of December 2021 11:53:45 PM

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Wow, sorry for the monster picture. I'll reduce the size for you guys who don't have a 4 foot monitor!

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Excellent, thanks Carl.
Looks like in from the top, 1" back from the front and 1" over from the side.

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Yup, I'd say their should be a knockout in the cardboard in that position.

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Yup, I'd say their should be a knockout in the cardboard in that position.

 The glovebox liner is plastic in 69 & 70.



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Oh really? I'd forgotten. So is there any kind of imprint in the plastic or do you just measure?

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All I've ever done with 69 full size cars is strip the 427 out of them and scrap them!

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Robert, did I never sell you an assembly manual for your 69? Are you aware I have those? If you ever have an interest in purchasing one, shoot me a PM please.

Anyway, Clint sent me a PM reminding me that the assembly manual likely has the answer, and it does. I'm sorry to only post this now, I've had the answer to your initial question under my nose the whole time and it totally escaped me!

Here you are, the switch location for the electric trunk button on a 1969 full size Canadian Pontiac.






-- Edited by 4SPEED427 on Friday 17th of December 2021 11:53:45 PM

Yes Carl you did sell me one and I looked, but TOTALLY missed it! I am so sorry for wasting everybody's time on this!no It is clear as day! Now I really question the sale brochures illustration! Makes no sense to me. Oh, well! The glove boxes are plastic, so, measure twice and drill once! Thanks Carl for pointing out the obvious, according to the manual! I guess I have to look through it more carefully! Thanks again Clint for sending me the correct switch, which should show up Monday! Thanks again Carl for all the work you did, in producing these manuals! I will be sending CP a donation for the time everybody spent on this!



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"I am so sorry for wasting everybody's time on this!"

Anytime I'm encouraged to go out to my shop, between shifts, and forage around my car,

Is not a waste of time biggrin



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Is not a waste of time biggrin

 Exactly! Some learning about power trunks has taken place and learning is never a waste of time!



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My Canadian car doesnt have it but most of my American cars do, Ill post a pic later today. On big cars they used the same switch but the contact blades for the harness connectors were splayed out to be horizontal to avoid the top of the dash structure.

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Here is a factory installed unit on a 69 Bonneville. Id think the Canadian cars would use the identical setup.

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In the non flash shot you can actually see the wiring above the glovebox



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By the way, this was a lousy set up because any new driver would have no idea its there and if you have an eight track player like this car does and you stack 8 tracks in there its sometimes pops the trunk when you close the glove box because it pushes the tapes up into the button. On one of my other car that has the same situation that I drive a lot I replaced the factory retaining nut with the deep plastic one the factory used on 69 Grand Prixs. This retainer surrounds the push button entirely preventing accidental opening.



-- Edited by North on Sunday 19th of December 2021 04:42:43 PM

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Midsize cars in 69 had the button on the left side right beside the opening for the lamp, this position is even worse for accidental opening but at least you can see it when you look in the glove box

 

 



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This is the same 69 switch but with the big plastic retainer from the 69 GP console mount applicatio.



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They should have used it on all models, must of cost and extra fraction of a cent over the steel nut so they didnt.

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Lastly here is one in a 69 Firebird, this car has the Pontiac style one but Ive seen a lot of them over the years with the flat yellow Chevy spec button



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Thanks for the pictures John (North)! Really appreciated the visual! I bent the tabs on the switch to a horizontal position to avoid any interference with the dash. Christmas came early for me! The switch Clint (seventy2plus2) sent me, arrived EARLY! I get items from Canada, quicker than in the U.S.!confuseI received it yesterday and measured the glove box for the hole placement and installed it. The pink wire has been run from the trunk to the dash (the time consuming part!) and the wire from the clock to the switch has been run. Installation will be tomorrow. The only thing I keep in the glove box is the owners manual, registration and insurance, so accidentally hitting that button, won't be a problem. The later flush buttons (green & yellow) used from 1970 to the 80's, is a much better button design. Thanks again for all the help and input everyone! I sent Todd a donation for all of your time! I guess we are all educated on this now!biggrin

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