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RE: 1958 Pontiac Pathfinder Wagon Build


 

I am planning on using a 'Vintage Air' type heater so I made this Blower Motor/ Heater Core delete plate to clean up the fire wall.



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I am planning on using a 'Vintage Air' type heater so I made this Blower Motor/ Heater Core delete plate to clean up the fire wall.


 Nice! It looks like a factory part.



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Thanks 4speed427, that was what I was hoping for, with the edge I put on with the bead roller



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Hi Guys, (update, but not too exciting)

Progress is slow, with a reno project and the heat, but I recently purchased some brackets and pulleys so I decided to clean them up and paint them. 

The formula that I have found that produces a very durable finish is, 3-4 parts paint, 1 part acetone, and about 0.25 (splash) of hardener. (I am still experimenting with the amount of hardener, as I hear that the more you use, the 'flatter' it will be)

What I like about this is I can also add flat black, or gloss black to change the sheen of the finished product, as I think seeing different sheens of black under the hood looks good. (these pulleys and brackets are straight semi-gloss)

Hope you are all enjoying your Pontiacs during the summer.

 

 



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Hi Guys,

It has been a while, but a hot summer, a home reno project, and an injured shoulder has kept me from the garage, but I am back.

 

After completing the floor patches at the front, I decided to tackle the spare tire pan.

after cutting out the old metal, I didn't cut enough so had to add another patch,but it is now fully welded in.

 

Here are some before and after pics

It is certainly not perfect, but it is solid, and better that it was. and with a little fiberglass short strand bondo, it will look fine.



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Perfect cars are no fun, we worry about them all the time. Leave perfection for the rich folks that buy/build perfect cars.

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Perfect cars are no fun, we worry about them all the time. Leave perfection for the rich folks that buy/build perfect cars.


        RIGHT ON CARL    smilesmile



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Nice to see you moving this along. Looking good!

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Thanks for the encouragement guys.

 

Well, the metal work continues on the rear floor (Passenger Side) and as I 'peel this onion', it is uncovering more rust. (kind of expected).......... Oh, and look what I found down in the quarter panel

 

From the pics you see the "Before' pic of that rusted metal piece. I made a new one and then proceeded to remove it. 

I now need to replace those floor pieces below  before I can weld on my new piece, but it is made and ready to go 

work continues.............

 



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Nice work!

I wonder how much time and effort previous owners spent trying (unsuccessfully) to identify the intermittent rattle that bottle would have caused.



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Nice work!

I wonder how much time and effort previous owners spent trying (unsuccessfully) to identify the intermittent rattle that bottle would have caused.


 

 

 

Ha, Thanks John, hope all is well



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work continues on the rear floor 

I added a patch to the outside edge behind the wheel well. I lap welded it thinking it will never be seen, as it is behind the side panels, but I may go back and fix that. as the lap weld from underneath doesn't look good. (OCD maybe?)

Next, the rear floor section, and I decided to replace the piece beside the wheel well. I was thinking of making 1 patch, but decided on 2, and the seam from side to side will be on top of the cross member. (there will be 2 seams from front to back)

when I removed the old piece to expose the brace, it was full of gravel and sand. This car is from Edmonton and I cannot believe how much gravel/sand is everywhere, the cross members, the frame, every nook and cranny is full. (the frame is full up to the factory holes)

Once I removed the metal to expose the brace, I saw the top of the body mount. (at top of wheel well) .... the bolt broke, of course, so I had to make a new cage nut and inserted a new bolt. and painted before I closed it up.

The next piece to replace was near the rear, as it was under the front sheet metal. (make sense? replace the lower piece first)

You can see from the last pic that my next piece will be the middle/pass side of the rear floor behind the spare tire door. (with the indented area that I hope to make)



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Hi Guys

 

I have been working on the rear wheel wells, and noticed that the drivers side has a 'splash shield' and the passenger side does not.

 

My question is, Did a splash shield exist on the Passenger side? and it is missing because it rotted out and was removed? OR, is there only a splash shield on the drivers side? (the only reason I can think of is to protect the gas filler neck?)

 

The pic shows the splash shield behind the Drivers side rear wheel, and the Pass side with so shield

 

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-- Edited by Tempest on Tuesday 26th of November 2024 11:14:57 AM

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My 1958 Yeoman has the splash panel on just the driver's side. I assumed it was there to shield the fuel filler pipe.

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OK, Thanks John

 

 

Hope all is well



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That mount behind the tire is the same on all 59-64 x frames, probably very similar on the 58. Some good pictures in this post of the rear body mounts on both side and the one above the axle. These all collect road dust and rot on otherwise very solid vehicles, especially behind the tires catching mud from them.
www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php

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Thanks for the link and the pics Don.

 

I broke and replaced the cage nut directly above the axle (Pass side) already, but that was easy as the wagon floor was removed to be replaced and allowed access.

The next mount (in the pics) will probably break also, and I am hoping access to it will be easier when I lift the body. As for the most rear mount, I think I will be able to get it from the back (as I now have the rear bumper removed)

 

The frame on this car is surprisingly solid, but 1/2 full of sand/gravel. (reach in the side holes of the frame and feel the sand) but I expect all body bolts to break, just the way it goes. 

I expect to cut a hole in the solid floor on the drivers side above the axle, to get to the cage nut, then weld it back up

 

I am currently working on the Pass. side inner quarter panel, and I will post some pics when complete. (here is a 'Before ' pic )

 

 

Thanks again for the link



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Drivers side shield only, yes. My 'Yeo.

 



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Wednesday 27th of November 2024 11:51:19 AM

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Thanks for confirming Poncho, but I can't see your pics?



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Thanks for confirming Poncho, but I can't see your pics?


 WTF? Try again.

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perfect, Thanks,  that is very helpful,   and nice looking frame

 

feel free to post pics of the top side, from what I can see, it looks good 

 

 

Thanks again



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Well I have some progress to report underneath, but need to take some pics of floor above

Behind the rear passenger wheel well showed some rot, so I cut it out and installed a patch.

Here are a few pics of the process from start to finish.

I want to grind the welds at the top of the panel more, but my grinder won't reach. I may have to try my small carbide bit on the rotory tool.

 

also, you can see where the next patch will be,........



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Hi Guys

 

Here are some pics of the floor. (Before and After)

The bracket has not been welded in yet, as I want to seam seal the joint and primer first.

 

time to bend some more metal..........



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A definite labour of love. I remember those days. (82-95.. when I finally had it on the road)

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42 years later. (27yrs since paint)

 

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