409 Update

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

RE: 409 Update

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

They put in about 75 as far as i know. Rare as heck and with a four speed even rarer. They went very well.

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Canadian Poncho wrote:
I'm a bit confused. What car is this 409 from?

April 19th 1965 76637 409ci A (285 red) Saskatchewan link

#761551 Custom Sport 2dr hrdtp M20 Tuxedo Black %% Oldsledguy

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

Yes,no power steering but steers fairly easy. No cold light just the hot warning light. The valve covers are Canadian Pontiac only as well as the air cleaner decal which on this car is there but un readable.

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

Here is what GM could give me. Pretty bare bones.

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66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I'll call that a great list! Just what you need to go fast and no more!

DonSSDD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

The 409 is a torque monster, hp wise they came as 340 in 63-65 hydraulic lifter single 4 barrel form. They came in solid lifter single or double 4 barrel form as 380-400-425hp. Aftermarket has aluminum heads, intakes, and blocks available and with modern pistons, cams, and stroker cranks, they have been built to 800+ hp and quarter mile times under 9 seconds, the last I read about them. They can go very fast if you bring your wallet.

Much cheaper and easier to build a 454 and the 409s are much more rare. Was the L33 just the 340hp 409? Was there a solid lifter option in 1965? If yes, probably more rare than the 340 in a 65.

The 425hp 409 was available in 1963/64, it tied with the 1966 425 hp 427 for the most stock advertised hp ever put in a factory built in any Cdn or USA Pontiac of any size/model.

USA sales of factory 409 Chevies iirc were over 8,000 in 62, 21,000 in 63, and 11,000 in 64. There were a few hundred in 1961. Canadian wise, I havent seen any numbers from Canadian Chev but judging by the Pontiac numbers, they would likely be under 500 for both makes from 63-65. I dont think a 409 was available in Canada in 1962.

-- Edited by DonSSDD on Saturday 7th of December 2024 01:32:28 PM

CdnGMfan · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Ya, that there is a stripped-down, go-fast purist car. With hydraulic lifters, oodles of torque, and it isn't high-strung like a 400-horse version would tend to be (though that would be nice just the same). The 409 isn't as heavy as a Mark IV big block, though even those don't upset the balance on the big cars with their longer wheelbase.

Tuxedo Black with red interior on a '65 Parisienne Custom Sport would look super nice and was a great choice when new.

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

Only two 409 options in the owners manual.

oldsledguy · Veteran Member

Heres where the interior is at. Seat cover and carpet changed and rear package tray. Headliner,door panels, dash all original. Would have liked to have keep it more original but the drivers seat was trash. Once the cover was removed a lot of welding and straightening had to be done as the seat was back was pushed back a good 5 inches at the top. The rest of the covers were ok but sun burnt and crispy. Drivers side carpet was a mess yet floor pan was solid.