And So It Begins- The Big Block Swap

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

RE: And So It Begins- The Big Block Swap

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I'm sure I asked this question (to Dave I think) but I forgot the answer. Was the water pump on the 69 427 in the B body's considered a "Long" or Short" one?

Todd

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

69 427 is a long water pump. When they switched the alternator to the passenger side for 69, they also went to a long water pump.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Thanks!

2drpost · Uber Guru

correct todd, and if you're after the 'correct' looking '69-'70 pump, try fenco.
i just bought a nice '68 sm/blk pump from them.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I found the correct number for the Fenco water pump Dave. Are they available at most parts suppliers?

2drpost · Uber Guru

i ordered it through a jobber i deal with, they got it right from fenco, took a day or 2.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

67BBSD wrote:

427carl wrote:

Orange will look more original too

Wow, does that ever look good ! is it for sale ???

It was for sale, until I taliked to Hillar now its big bucks lol

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

427carl wrote:

67BBSD wrote:

427carl wrote:

Orange will look more original too

Wow, does that ever look good ! is it for sale ???

It was for sale, until I taliked to Hillar now its big bucks lol

Carl-It looks great ! don't give it away ! sell the house for less-do the selling Agent bonous thing or something

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Thanks for the advice biggrin

I have priced it at 15 No one will pay that, disbelief

so that solves the problem!! Wife is happy, as she think its for sale wink

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

427carl wrote:

Thanks for the advice I have priced it at 15 No one will pay that, so that solves the problem!! Wife is happy, as she think its for sale

as soon as you think "nobody" will pay that-they'll be right over !

sold that 55 chrysler for the woman today !

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I am going to relist house with car included! Already dropped house from 169,900 to 139,900

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I got the intake installed today. I'll try to snap some pics tomorrow. Tiny- you may have saved my engine. I mentioned to him about removing a bunch of carbon from the exhaust port (egr). Tiny mentioned to make sure I get every piece out as many a valve has been bent from carbon wedging between it and the seat. I shone my trouble light into the exhaust port and sure enough- pieces sitting on the valve ready to ruin my day. I picked out what I could reach and used compressed air to get the rest..

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

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65wagon · Poncho Master!

I was in the same boat with a 327 i picked up from a storage yard about 20 years and four vehicals and 200000. The supposed bad engine sat outside for 15 years never had any power, guy pulled it in favor of a 350, his mistake. when i ran the numbers its a 350 horse out of a 68 chevelle. the nob put a cam in it so big that i barly had 8hg of vacum. the guy was right it had no power down low. but boy does it ever work well up high. had that engine on the strip in the wagon, it'll run 13s easy and i tow with it,the short be smart checks berings change seals and enjoy , you never no what you got with an old engine.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

65wagon wrote:

the short be smart checks berings change seals and enjoy , you never no what you got with an old engine.

or drop in the all original mint running motor anddrive it

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

I will be back on track with the swap this Spring....

427strato · Addicted!

Todd; thanks for the part number for the oil pickup and screen for the B-body oil pan. I thought I would change mine just in case there were particles I couldn't see. Our dealer in Brantford, Forbes Bros., who I had dealt with for over 40 years, wanted $33 as opposed to your $26. I must admit I haven't restored a GM for many years and I knew knowone in the parts department so it was still a fair price. Your research certainly saved me fooling around trying to fabricate a new pickup to the screen. Doug.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

No problem.

65Camino · Uber Guru

Spring is arriving this weekend. Any more progress?

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Well, the deal on my Dodge fell through (I did get a nice deposit though!) so my garage is full of Dodge right now. The floor work should start next week and the brakes are almost done. Once that's done the car can be moved and the Pontiac can come home from storage off site. I have a potential buyer in Austria for the Dodge so we'll see what happens there..

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Well, it's only been two years since I started this thread biggrin

I got my pulleys bead blasted and painted. I also got the engine cleaned up and painted. I installed a new water pump and have a new fuel pump to install. Oh, I threw in a new set of Delco plugs. it had old Motomaster V grooves in her. I'm surprised she ran! Those are the old plugs in the photos!

I did a test fit of the chrome valve covers Ray and Darryl sent me. At first the baffle interfered with the rockers. I had to really "persuade" the baffles to get them to clear. I'm not sure if I should run them this way. They do look purdy though.

If I use them I need to find chrome fasteners, a chrome oil filler cap and grommets.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

69Laurentian wrote:

I did a test fit of the chrome valve covers Ray and Darryl sent me. At first the baffle interfered with the rockers. I had to really "persuade" the baffles to get them to clear. I'm not sure if I should run them this way. They do look purdy though.

If I use them I need to find chrome fasteners, a chrome oil filler cap and grommets.

Let me check the parts bin biggrin

Beaumont4008 · Uber Guru

Looking good Tod. I like the look of stock chrome valve covers. Use them.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Well, something weird is going on. I test fit the water pump pulley today and it hits the water pump housing! Any chance the hub could be pressed too far in on the shaft?