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3 on the tree - to a 4 speed


Does anyone know what parts are involved to change a 3 speed column shift to a 4 speed on the floor. I know the shifter and linkage is different, but I'm talking about stuff like the bellhousing, z-bar, clutch fork, return spring etc (what am I forgetting). I'm not 100% sure on what parts to source to make this conversion. Can these parts be installed into a car that was originally a powerglide car, or does it require modifying the firewall for the clutch linkage etc. 

Here's the story behind this question. I found a rebuilt M-22 4 speed from a 70 Camaro, and potentially could get the clutch pedal assembly and all other parts from a 3 speed column shift donor car. Can I make this work or not?

Those who know the manual shift cars, what sayeth you? 

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Kevin

I don't have much spare time at the moment, (but I HAD to check in!!!) but I can answer all your stick conversion questions if nobody else helps you.

Make sure it's an M22 if you are paying for one. There are also M20 and M21's that look the same on the outside.

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Thanks Carl, already confirmed the M-22. Did my research ahead of time. Had the owner open the tranny up so I could check the gear angle. It wasn't the 45 degree pattern, so I'm good there. Nothings been purchased just yet. Wanting to make sure this will work.

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Just when I get a nice original automatic console, I ponder the 4 speed thing.

Carl - Your putting a 4 speed in your 65 right? Do you have any pictures of the 4 speed components installed? I'd love to see you project sometime to get an idea of what parts I need and how they get installed.

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Everything from the 3 speed should work, but you will have to source the steering column sleeve without the column shifter. Not sure which car you want to change, but the clutch pedal has a rod which connects to the Z bar which mounts to your frame and your motor, or bellhousing. There is a shaft that is adjustable foe free play that goes to the clutch fork from your Z bar. The Acadians have a specific bellhousing so that could be tuff to find. Most other small blocks cars are generic. Hope that helps, Paul

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