1966 Pontiac Grande Parisienne -427 engine looking for the original car

68 427 · Poncho Master!

RE: 1966 Pontiac Grande Parisienne -427 engine looking for the original car

Ghost Post · Poncho Master!

Really great news this CP L36 engine has found its way home!.
Again maybe it's time this site gets an Orphan parts section for original Vin stamped components that've gone astray?.

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grande jim · Guru

Very cool!!! 390 hp....And the words ( OOOOH WOW ) come up as the speedo needle sinks down into the cluster.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

grande jim wrote:

Very cool!!! 390 hp....And the words ( OOOOH WOW ) come up as the speedo needle sinks down into the cluster.

For those of you lucky enough to own a 66 Grande Parisienne, that is!

Hint, hint, Jim........

67custom · Guru

Elroy wrote:

Home sweet home ! I was in contact with Steve and he picked up his Xmas present, its bored 020 over and just needs assembly . Also has GM alum hi-rise and heads and special valve covers. Hoping to have the GP repainted and crusin in 2012.

That's Awsome Elroy, looking forward to seeing at the 2012 Super Run

Elroy · Poncho Master!

You bet Gerry ! Maybe one old 67 convertible can be ready too.... Hafta get serious on this and keep Steve in check too.... Ricks is ready, Ken get that 409 car together and come to Red Deer in 12 & lets have a go !! lite to lite any bets on the 409 ??

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I'll tell ya what! We'll sign up for the Reynolds museum History road thing and then have a rat race right in the middle of it.

Seriously my brother is tryign to get the 409 car road worthy for next summer. Getting it past an out of province might be a bit of work the way she sits now but you never know. it would be a great matchup thats for sure.

66 ponchoboy · Veteran Member

Hi guys I'M very happy with gettin the oringinal 390HP 427 for my 66 Grande Parisienne. I told Brent it was like he took the motor out and saved it from the ravages of time for the car. ii do need some of the oringinal alternator and power sterring brackets. Brent had put a 396 in the car when he sold it to someone in Fort Mac. When I got it there was a 350 chevy in it. It had been sitting for I believe he said 8 years so I'm thinking the 80000 miles on the odometer could be correct. I have a 66 GTO clone I want to drive this summerbut will work at getting the 427 in and new paint for next year.
Pretty cool to have the original block heads valve covers Hi rise and water pump.
The water pump is cast I thought I read somewhere that they were aluminum, maybe only in Vettes?

65wagon · Poncho Master!

ill take part of that 2012 red dear deal sounds like a realistic time frame. ill have to bring my whole family though

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

66 ponchoboy wrote:

Hi guys I'M very happy with gettin the oringinal 390HP 427 for my 66 Grande Parisienne. I told Brent it was like he took the motor out and saved it from the ravages of time for the car. ii do need some of the oringinal alternator and power sterring brackets. Brent had put a 396 in the car when he sold it to someone in Fort Mac. When I got it there was a 350 chevy in it. It had been sitting for I believe he said 8 years so I'm thinking the 80000 miles on the odometer could be correct. I have a 66 GTO clone I want to drive this summerbut will work at getting the 427 in and new paint for next year.
Pretty cool to have the original block heads valve covers Hi rise and water pump.
The water pump is cast I thought I read somewhere that they were aluminum, maybe only in Vettes?

Hey Steve, it's Clint. I'm Brent's buddy, the one that talked to you a number of years ago at Radium, and I kind of got this whole thing rolling. The cast iron water pump is correct, even the date code is correct for the motor. I know there were a few things missing like the oil pan and timing cover, I can likely help you out with the timing cover.

Elroy · Poncho Master!

Hey Steven, great to see you on here ! I'm thinking it should have a cast iron high rise intake not an aluminum intake though ?? I think you mentioned to me earlier that it had an aluminum intake ??

66 ponchoboy · Veteran Member

yes it is cast he must have had it sandblasted,it just looks aluminum. yes Clint I need the timing cover. I had to use a chrome oil pan to install the 468 I have in it now. I assume I need a 800 cfm quadra jet??

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

66 ponchoboy wrote:

yes it is cast he must have had it sandblasted,it just looks aluminum. yes Clint I need the timing cover. I had to use a chrome oil pan to install the 468 I have in it now. I assume I need a 800 cfm quadra jet??

The intake is cast iron, it was sandblasted years ago. It might look aluminum, but the weight of it indicates it's iron. The oil pan is different than a Corvette or Chevelle, not sure if there is anything different than other 65 - 70 B body big blocks or not. I'd think they'd be the same. You might have a tough time tracking down the correct carb, but it doesn't sound like you're in a huge hurry. I'll take a look for the timing cover.

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Howdy, according to the spec sheet i got from GM for my 66 Grande, your car would have had a rochester quadrajet number 7026205 if manual tranny or 7026204 if auto.

I can't remember if your car was a 4 speed or not.

if you want a copy of the detailed specs you can either get George Zapora (GM vintage vehcles services to check out your vin and all that (he usually sends that package) or you can pm me.

Elroy · Poncho Master!

its a TH400 car Ken.

gparis7 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Great to see car & motor reunited.

Pierre67 · Veteran Member

this is an awesome story.......Rare and Canadian..gotta love it!

Pierre

DonSSDD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I was reading the monthly feature car and ended up finding this post, any news on the car since 2011?

Don

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

66 ponchoboy wrote:
Hi guys I'M very happy with gettin the oringinal 390HP 427 for my 66 Grande Parisienne. I told Brent it was like he took the motor out and saved it from the ravages of time for the car. ii do need some of the oringinal alternator and power sterring brackets. Brent had put a 396 in the car when he sold it to someone in Fort Mac. When I got it there was a 350 chevy in it. It had been sitting for I believe he said 8 years so I'm thinking the 80000 miles on the odometer could be correct. I have a 66 GTO clone I want to drive this summerbut will work at getting the 427 in and new paint for next year. Pretty cool to have the original block heads valve covers Hi rise and water pump. The water pump is cast I thought I read somewhere that they were aluminum, maybe only in Vettes?

Is there any update on this car? I'd love to know the 427 has made it's way back into the original body.

ABC123 · Uber Guru

Member Since	Nov 1, 2010
Last Access	Nov 25, 2010

I'm surprised someone hasn't spotted this car in Alberta !

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

But the guy who owns or owned it has been on recently:

Member Since	Jan 20, 2008
Last Access	4h ago

Hope to hear that the car is alive and well with its original 427 in it... smile

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

MC wrote:
But the guy who owns or owned it has been on recently:
Member Since Jan 20, 2008
Last Access 4h ago
Hope to hear that the car is alive and well with its original 427 in it...

Exactly, I noticed that when I checked last night so I'm hoping he's going to update us and say the "team" is back together again.

MC · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Fingers crossed! wink

66 ponchoboy · Veteran Member

Hello I don't have much to update. I've picked up a few parts here and there, mostly at red deer swap meet. I'm in the midst of building a shop(wiring insulating) and when this is done, this winter I plan on rebuilding the 427 cleaning up the engine bay and then body work. I can't find the right camshaft for it and the closest I've found is a Comp Cams 268 H but was hoping to get performance in the 1000 to 5000 RPM range. I have not drove it for a while and sure miss the sound and pull of a big block. I check this site quite regularly and have got some great information from it thanks all.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Thanks for the update! As you can tell, many of us here have a great interest in your project...

So you're looking for more cam than stock. If you happened to follow my build thread I put just a touch more cam than stock in my 66 L36 engine when I rebuilt it this winter. I wish I had gone just a touch more but I would rather have too little than too much. These big cars aren't hot rods anyway!