I'm still having a hard time believing that will cure my clutch woes but I have to believe it if it worked for this guy. Such a little thing...

I'm not even sure I will have time to try it this weekend, but we'll see.

I will certainly post once I have worked on it again Rog.

I was thinking, it might not be a bad idea if we had an A body 4 speed conversion thread going?

By now I'm pretty optimistic that it will be a simple fix. I wasn't convinced totally so I asked him if he had 3" freeplay like mine has.

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Bill, thanks for posting your solution up promptly when you figured it out.

I have not been able to get back to my car to work on it but would you say you had 3" of freeplay in the pedal when the pivot ball was the wrong length?

Carl


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vet65b


10-30-12 06:53 AM
In response to 65acadian

Carl,
Yes, at least 3" of freeplay. A local Chevy dealer's parts department did a nationwide trace (using the GM part number) for me and found 2-3 GM studs. The closest to me was Meeker, Colorado. There was one in Calif. also. Good luck! Back to the garage. Bill

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-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 30th of October 2012 06:36:23 PM

No, I'm afraid not. I was going to take it last night to the shop, pull the trans, change the pivot ball. The forecast changed all that. They were wrong, but I wasn't willing to take the risk. I'm not that keen on pulling a trailer on icy roads when it doesn't have to be.

I have to usher at my aunt's funeral at 1:00 today so that will likely take care of the day today too. Also, they are still insisting that we are going to see up to 40cm of snow. so far we have a white dust, that's about it.

Carl Stevenson wrote:

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I will certainly post once I have worked on it again Rog.

I was thinking, it might not be a bad idea if we had an A body 4 speed conversion thread going?

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 After recovering from a lapse in reason and considering selling my Beaumont, I'm back on the wagon with collecting and inventorying the parts required for the long dreamt of four speed swap. I'm short return springs and the frame mount but basically have everything else. One thing that has me wondering is the steering column support plate? Will there be a knockout in the firewall insulation that I can remove and trace out the location for the clutch pushrod hole and cut it with a holesaw, or am I being optimistic?

I have my used z bar(cross shaft) disassembled for cleaning and everything seems to be reuseable, what is normal play for the holes in the cross shaft arms that the upper and lower pushrods install into?

Once I have everything collected and cleaned up I'll lay it all out and take some pictures.

Islander wrote:

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

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I will certainly post once I have worked on it again Rog.

I was thinking, it might not be a bad idea if we had an A body 4 speed conversion thread going?

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 After recovering from a lapse in reason and considering selling my Beaumont, I'm back on the wagon with collecting and inventorying the parts required for the long dreamt of four speed swap. I'm short return springs and the frame mount but basically have everything else. One thing that has me wondering is the steering column support plate? Will there be a knockout in the firewall insulation that I can remove and trace out the location for the clutch pushrod hole and cut it with a holesaw, or am I being optimistic?

I have my used z bar(cross shaft) disassembled for cleaning and everything seems to be reuseable, what is normal play for the holes in the cross shaft arms that the upper and lower pushrods install into?

Once I have everything collected and cleaned up I'll lay it all out and take some pictures.

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 I just did this with my 69 beaumont. The factory seal had a about a 2 in  perforated round area that just pushed out and that alowed me to trace the outline on the plate to drill out. But thats a 68 and 69 style. Not sure about the 64 to 67 years. You would think it would be the same.

-- Edited by Beaumont4008 on Saturday 17th of November 2012 02:14:33 PM

Carl Stevenson wrote:

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Islander wrote:

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

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I will certainly post once I have worked on it again Rog.

I was thinking, it might not be a bad idea if we had an A body 4 speed conversion thread going?

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 After recovering from a lapse in reason and considering selling my Beaumont, I'm back on the wagon with collecting and inventorying the parts required for the long dreamt of four speed swap. I'm short return springs and the frame mount but basically have everything else. One thing that has me wondering is the steering column support plate? Will there be a knockout in the firewall insulation that I can remove and trace out the location for the clutch pushrod hole and cut it with a holesaw, or am I being optimistic?

I have my used z bar(cross shaft) disassembled for cleaning and everything seems to be reuseable, what is normal play for the holes in the cross shaft arms that the upper and lower pushrods install into?

Once I have everything collected and cleaned up I'll lay it all out and take some pictures.

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I don't think there's a knockout but hopefully someone here can show you how it should look. The worst part is, I saw one on a removed steering column in a Lemans at a wrecking yard yesterday and debated buying it but didn't. How crazy is that?

For those holes in the bar, there should not be much slop and typically there is, sometimes to the point of the holes being oval. You could always find a bushing the correct size, then drill out and install them to tighten that all up again.

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 There is a little wear showing on the pin of the lower clutch pushrod, I have a new GM one on its way, the z bar hole is still round so I'm hoping that the new pushrod will "take up some of the slack"

If you happen to have the opportunity to pick up the Lemans part I would be interested, that would make things easier....I know that reproductions are out there but there is something special about having the "from the General" part!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

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I'm still having a hard time believing that will cure my clutch woes but I have to believe it if it worked for this guy. Such a little thing...

I'm not even sure I will have time to try it this weekend, but we'll see.

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Solved!

Changed the pivot ball and all is good. I'm happy to say the least.

Now, back to work.

2drpost wrote:

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carl, do you have the correct length fork pivot

-- Edited by 2drpost on Tuesday 9th of October 2012 08:24:58 AM

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As soon as I had the pivot ball changed, this is what I was seeing so I knew it was going to be good! Suddenly I had to adjust MAJOR, in the right direction!



And a general work pic.

It's fun, especially now that it's going to work properly!

I was just thinking this afternoon that you've been awful quiet on here! There's a couple of guys who've been scarce and you were one that came to mind.

They pretty much look great from any angle, don't they Ken???!!!