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Hi I was trying to get new points cap and other stuff for a tune 

up the car is a 1967 Parisienne with a 283 the guy at parts store 

asked if it's a 4.6or4.7 how do I tell the difference 

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Wont make any difference,   small block chevy stuff in the 1960's is all the same.

Your parts store counter guy is an idiot!



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beaumontguru wrote:

Wont make any difference,   small block chevy stuff in the 1960's is all the same.

Your parts store counter guy is an idiot!

Tell the parts guy you a have a 302 Chevy and see what he says.... 



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Ok thanks

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You have to be "very specific" with these young guys on the parts counters    

I gave up    

I look up the parts numbers on Line  

 

print it off and take it in to Car Quest       The manager there (great guy) was born in 1990  



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beaumontguru wrote:

Wont make any difference,   small block chevy stuff in the 1960's is all the same.

Your parts store counter guy is an idiot!

 X 2.



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long stroke wrote:
beaumontguru wrote:

Wont make any difference,   small block chevy stuff in the 1960's is all the same.

Your parts store counter guy is an idiot!

 X 2.

         x3     but   most of the 60-70's stuff is not in their computer     They have to look it up in parts BOOKS



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For common small block V-8 Chevy parts i would not waste my time with any local jobbers. ECKLER'S, SUMMIT and Ebay has everything you need and for a reasonable price, although the exchange rate now really sucks. Parts are always in stock, they are the correct parts, the staff at SUMMIT and ECKLER'S know there stuff and you get your parts in a few short days. Just be sure to tell them that you do not want the items to be shipped UPS, that you just want regular surface shipping. It always makes sense to buy the whole kit because it will be far cheaper (plugs, wires, cap, rotor) I won't say points and condenser because points and condenser are for the birds. Put a PERTRONIX electronic conversion in there instead, you will never regret it. Both SUMMIT and ECKLER'S have excellent web sites. Cheers. George.



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Interesting
Everyone always forgets the source GM Dealer

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67custom wrote:

Interesting
Everyone always forgets the source GM Dealer

 biggrin  I've been in Gerry's parts warehouse.......he's got it covered!



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67custom wrote:

Interesting
Everyone always forgets the source GM Dealer

 Sadly GM dealers are generally out to lunch, when it comes to service and cost. They have way too much expensive over head to be able to compete with companies like SUMMIT. 



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For my old Pontiac I always check with City Buick Cadillac GMC first. You'd be surprised what they still have or can get. OEM quailty still the best. As for cost I always get 15 percent off because after purchasing so many Cadillacs and GMC there that's my loyalty rate. Only use GM parts in Cadillacs. George is right on Sumitt though. Good quality and prices with knowledgeable staff. I. Stay away from Ames and PY it's. Just too much of a hassle explaining what an Oshawa built Pontiac is.  



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A guy at NAPA in Charlottetown had no problem finding/ordering me many, many 283 parts ... of course his seller name printed on the receipts is Mad Dog. I always trust a guy named Mad Dog!biggrin



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long stroke wrote:

67custom wrote:

Interesting
Everyone always forgets the source GM Dealer

 Sadly GM dealers are generally out to lunch, when it comes to service and cost. They have way too much expensive over head to be able to compete with companies like SUMMIT. 




Often true, but not always.

You just need to find a GM parts guy who is also a car nut. I know that is getting rarer all the time, but typically a parts guy who is a car guy will work to get your old car parts business, including working to make the price attractive.

And if you end up in a jobber store for ignition stuff, be careful you don't get cheap junk. I've seem some pretty awful imported junk for distributors. Rotors that are paper thin, points with contacts that don't line up etc.


And speaking of points, it appears George's experience and mine are certainly different. I've run points in pretty much every old car I've ever driven and I don't ever recall an issue with a point set or condenser as far as them failing on me on the road.

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i use this site to look up parts....

http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php

a number of jobbers sell ac delco parts



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2drpost wrote:

i use this site to look up parts....

http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php

a number of jobbers sell ac delco parts

 Must be another (better)  link........no vehicles on list except Volkswagen



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Greaser wrote:

2drpost wrote:

i use this site to look up parts....

http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php

a number of jobbers sell ac delco parts

 Must be another (better)  link........no vehicles on list except Volkswagen




Hmm, not sure what you did different but I picked 1967, then Chevrolet, then Caprice, then 4.6L (283) and it gave me numbers and pictures for cap, rotor, condenser and points. confuse

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I often use exactly that site at work for parts lookup if it's something that's not in my computer (too old a listing, computer goes back to 1976)

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Carl Stevenson wrote:
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2drpost wrote:

i use this site to look up parts....

http://parts-catalog.acdelco.com/catalog/catalog_search.php

a number of jobbers sell ac delco parts

 Must be another (better)  link........no vehicles on list except Volkswagen


 



Hmm, not sure what you did different but I picked 1967, then Chevrolet, then Caprice, then 4.6L (283) and it gave me numbers and pictures for cap, rotor, condenser and points. confuse

Did it again....... I picked 1963....found it doesn't work with anything that is 1964 or older.....just Volkswagen comes up.



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Ah, ok, that makes sense.

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Ah, ok, that makes sense.

 Doesn't to me. cry

1965 would probably cover most of 1963,yes?



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I chose 1964 ... and it came up Volkswagen also ... biggrin Fail.

Inputting 1967 brings up everything.



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Greaser wrote:

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Ah, ok, that makes sense.

 Doesn't to me. cry

1965 would probably cover most of 1963,yes?




As far as ignition, yes, identical. I think even the plug wires would be the same all the way through to 70. Rams horn manifolds on all of them.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:
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1965 would probably cover most of 1963,yes?

 As far as ignition, yes, identical. I think even the plug wires would be the same all the way through to 70. Rams horn manifolds on all of them.

 ... but different style ram's horns on some (e.g. choke tube, driver's side outlet angle) but will still bolt on.



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