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GM all synchro 3 speed


When did GM offer the all synchro 3 speed......:scratch......remember in the mid 60's (66 or 67) sometime
GM advertising it........:read..........just can't remember exactly when......:rub



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66 was the first year. (Unless I'm proven wrong...!)

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

66 was the first year. (Unless I'm proven wrong...!)


 ........well that's what I thought Carl but getting conflicting reports......some saying 65.

According to one article the 65 Saginaw was an old design and the new 66 design included all synchro.

I suspect the new design may have been available late in the 65 model year or later as a service

replacement.......but have been shown ads for 65 touting the all synchro 3 speed......but just because it

was in a sales brochure doesn't mean you can get it.



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My personal experience at least is that any cars I've ever played with have not had a full syncro in 65 or older. The article you mention is what I have always believed to be accurate. Just checked the 65-76 Impala parts book. It says 327 and 409 in 65 had the 66 and newer style 3 speed, smaller engines had the regular old grind into low and reverse 3 speed!

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Wednesday 23rd of December 2015 04:32:36 PM

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

 It says 327 and 409 in 65 had the 66 and newer style 3 speed, smaller engines had the regular old grind into low and reverse 3 speed!


 I was going to go against the grain and say it wasn't '66 as my Chiefy with a 3-thro and original 250ci mill always snarled at me if I didn't wait a few seconds or shift to 3rd first before going into 1st...



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Had a buddy Mike Stefan who had a 409 62 Impala with 3 on the column. Not syncro.. I still think late 65 and non ever for reverse.
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Non-syncro through 1965, but a h.d. fully-syncro was offered starting in 1965, the h.d Warner T-16. It was an option on 1965 327s and was included as base on 1965 409s. For 1966 it was included with the 396 & 427; meanwhile the Saginaw became fully syncronized for 1966 and was used through the 327s. Ratios on the Saginaw originally were 2.94:1 low on sixes & 283s, 2.47 low on 327, 348 & 409s (big mistake to use one behind a 409). For 1964 they were improved and the 2.47 low version became a 2.58 low. For 1966 the 2.94 low became the 2.85 low; the 2.58 low became the 2.54 low. The h.d. Warner was a 2.41 low but they also sometimes offered a 2.86 low behind sixes & 283, but such instances were rare and just for the U.S.

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