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I know it's been gone over before, but will all straight across bolt pattern starter motors work on a 153 tooth manual flywheel?

More importantly, will the straight across style fit in the smaller bellhousing? Specifically a GM 3840383.

Above all, do I need a straight across pattern starter with a specific nose style?

Thanks, Mark



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I'm quite sure you have exactly what you need there Mark. I am currently running my original bellhousing with the 283 (same as 6 cylinder) starter with the straight across bolts. That is the only starter that works with that flywheel as far as stock starters go.

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This is good, as the old 250 has a straight across style starter in good working order. I was worried that only a Iron nose starter would work/fit. Thanks Carl.



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No problem.

The beauty of GM and it's interchange. You can pull out a 194 and drop in a 427 using the 194 starter and flywheel/flexplate on the 427! All interchanges except 292, 400 small block and 454. And of course the 86 and up with the one piece rear seal use different flywheels/flexplates.

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4speed427, do you think the 9 1/2 clutch from the 194 would live behind a big block?
But on the serious side there are some small blocks not drilled to take the starter for the large flywheel. A friend years ago put a manual in his car and used a truck flywheel and truck aluminum bell housing. The last thing was the starter and he found that he only had one bolt hole. Ended up using a cast iron truck bell and the starter that bolts to the bell housing.

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It might last for until the first clutch dump at 4000 rpm!

What engine was that on? I have heard guys talk about that but I guess never really paid attention to whether or not a block had it.



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If I recall it was a 1964 283 that was lacking the hole in the block.

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Ah, ok. Most of the stuff I've played with has been 66 and up, some 65 though too.

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That would make sense as the turbo 400 used the large flywheel if I recall.

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Yes, always as far as I've ever seen.

Any big block, any TH400 should always be the 168 tooth.

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