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woodytwoshoes


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Hey all, have all the plugs out, turned the engine to no 1 cylinder at the top, lined up the timing marks to zero on the crank. The rotor points to no 7 cylinder. Makes no sense to me. any help or ideas would be most welcome,

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I'll do the basics in case you are doing something wrong, so don't laugh if what I say is obvious!

You know you have to have #1 to the top after the intake valve closes though, right?

You know the firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 ?

You know left front is #1, followed by 3, 5, 7 and right front is 2, then 4, 6, 8?

#1 wire goes into the distributor cap first tower left of the "window" on the cap?





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yup, think that's all good, your going left and right as if your sitting in car right?

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seems everything i read is that if i have the no 1 at compression, the rotor should point to no 1?

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woodytwoshoes wrote:

yup, think that's all good, your going left and right as if your sitting in car right?

 Correct, driver's side is left. NOT standing facing it like people sometimes think it's done.

 



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woodytwoshoes wrote:

seems everything i read is that if i have the no 1 at compression, the rotor should point to no 1?

 So you pulled #1 plug out, then clicked it over until you had compression and lined up the timing mark? If so, then time to pull the distributor and put it back in on #1. Was this supposed to have been running this way?

And the vacuum advance is sitting in about the right spot i.e. you can't pull the distributor around far enough to have the rotor pointing at #1?

You did confirm the wires are in the right towers in the cap?



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ya im a bodyman not a mechanic so all this is a bit confusing, I have a top notch mechanic coming to make a house call today so i will video the start up and post if possible

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I hope he has experience with a breaker point distributor.

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oh ya he figured it out pretty quickly, got it to fire some, but someone had been fooling with the distributor and i need to loosen it and turn it. Its frozen solid so that's tomorrows job. any hints on getting it to turn would be much appreciated


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Small pipe wrench on the neck, and a few LIGHT raps with a deadblow hammer. Switch direction, repeat until it starts to free up?



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The rotor spins but the distributor body won't turn?
Did you loosen the plate that holds the distributor down?

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got her loose by lightly tapping it side to side. tomorrow i will see if i can get the rotor to point to no 1 cylinder.

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