hey guys i recetly got my hands on a motor for my project, it is a 350 buick motor that was rebuilt and put in a car for a few months then the car was totaled, i got it for 150 without the carb, what do you think?
before you go through the trouble of installing it, spend an hour and do a compression test and oil pressure test. chain it side to side in your truck box and fire it up for 30 seconds....
time well spent!
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before you go through the trouble of installing it, spend an hour and do a compression test and oil pressure test. chain it side to side in your truck box and fire it up for 30 seconds....
before you go through the trouble of installing it, spend an hour and do a compression test and oil pressure test. chain it side to side in your truck box and fire it up for 30 seconds....
time well spent!
Good advice
Make sure its really good , so you can sell it
and get a Canadian orange motor
yeah it would be mice to get my hands on a chevy or pontiac motor but i lucked out on this one so i plan on keeping it, im not trying to build a numbers matching car or anything close to it, im just going for looks, deference and reliability
Before trying to start it keep in mind Buick engines having a front oil pump and w/ the far away rear sump like yours you need good oil pressure before fire-up so spin the motor over and make sure the pressure is up before adding ignition/spark/gas.. Especially if sitting for any period of time, firing these old Buick engines up often causes lots of internal damage and in extreme cases requires using petroleum jelly packed into the pump etc to get them sucking oil again..
Also, if you're going ahead w/ using the motor and have sourced a BOP style transmission, take a good hard look at the Buick flywheel before installation in the vehicle.. Carefully examine the flexplate between the crank bolt holes and elsewhere too as they're prone to cracking and the resulting sounds often mistaken for an engine knock.. I won on a few w/ this flywheel problem back in the day, bought 'em "knocking" and sold them again after replacing only the flexplate!.
What vehicle are you planning on putting it in?. As mentioned above you'll need a few changes under the hood to add the Buick lump including exhaust and cooling also extending your wiring for ignition, oil gauge and more.. The good nes is dependng on what car you're putting it in, w/ good ol' GM often the frame has holes already there for the Buick application and you only need to source the correct motor and frame mounts..
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I saw this engine for sale here on the Island. Did you go out in the weather we had today to get it?
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I saw this engine for sale here on the Island. Did you go out in the weather we had today to get it?
no i never got it today, im picking it up this weekend, already looked at it but didnt have the money at the time and the plan was to grab it today but im still in the middle of moving and the weather didnt help any
Before trying to start it keep in mind Buick engines having a front oil pump and w/ the far away rear sump like yours you need good oil pressure before fire-up so spin the motor over and make sure the pressure is up before adding ignition/spark/gas.. Especially if sitting for any period of time, firing these old Buick engines up often causes lots of internal damage and in extreme cases requires using petroleum jelly packed into the pump etc to get them sucking oil again..
Also, if you're going ahead w/ using the motor and have sourced a BOP style transmission, take a good hard look at the Buick flywheel before installation in the vehicle.. Carefully examine the flexplate between the crank bolt holes and elsewhere too as they're prone to cracking and the resulting sounds often mistaken for an engine knock.. I won on a few w/ this flywheel problem back in the day, bought 'em "knocking" and sold them again after replacing only the flexplate!.
What vehicle are you planning on putting it in?. As mentioned above you'll need a few changes under the hood to add the Buick lump including exhaust and cooling also extending your wiring for ignition, oil gauge and more.. The good nes is dependng on what car you're putting it in, w/ good ol' GM often the frame has holes already there for the Buick application and you only need to source the correct motor and frame mounts..
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thanks for the info. i wasn't 100% sure if it would bolt up but i figured it is a gm motor and it is going in a gm car (67' parisienne) so it would most likely be similar
the oil pump shouldn't be gunked up because all of the fluids were drained before it sat in storage for a few years untouched
Thanks again for the great info. i really learned some from this post
I saw this engine for sale here on the Island. Did you go out in the weather we had today to get it?
no i never got it today, im picking it up this weekend, already looked at it but didnt have the money at the time and the plan was to grab it today but im still in the middle of moving and the weather didnt help any
Justin, I know this is kind of bad to do, but I would back out of the deal ... unless you have a use for it other than putting in your Parisienne. Otherwise it might just end up as your own personal boat anchor.
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I saw this engine for sale here on the Island. Did you go out in the weather we had today to get it?
no i never got it today, im picking it up this weekend, already looked at it but didnt have the money at the time and the plan was to grab it today but im still in the middle of moving and the weather didnt help any
Justin, I know this is kind of bad to do, but I would back out of the deal ... unless you have a use for it other than putting in your Parisienne. Otherwise it might just end up as your own personal boat anchor.
why do you say that? are the motors not that great because i never heard much about them before, i was considering just buying it for something to sell/trade or to use for another future project.
I saw this engine for sale here on the Island. Did you go out in the weather we had today to get it?
no i never got it today, im picking it up this weekend, already looked at it but didnt have the money at the time and the plan was to grab it today but im still in the middle of moving and the weather didnt help any
Justin, I know this is kind of bad to do, but I would back out of the deal ... unless you have a use for it other than putting in your Parisienne. Otherwise it might just end up as your own personal boat anchor.
why do you say that? are the motors not that great because i never heard much about them before, i was considering just buying it for something to sell/trade or to use for another future project.
I just thought you might be better off putting your $150.00 into an engine/trans for your car. This Buick engine is incomplete (carb, wiring), and it would be nice to have the trans with it for trading purposes or a future build.
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Justin, these Buick engines are OK but they are an "animal" all of their own!!! Not popular for resale unless buyer has a Buick or it's the older "NAILHEAD" You may end up sitting on it for a long time. As the others said you have to use the Buick OLDS Pontiac [US] BOP transmissions & they are getting harder to find, wiring is on the wrong side & exhaust is all different to a Chevy S/B Unless you have a use for it I'd take a pass too!!!
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1977 Pontiac 350. engine and 3 spd trans out of a 1977 Firebird. Engine ran great a couple months ago. engine/trans disconnected and ready to be pulled. includes all accessories (alt, power steering pump, etc).engine has 84000 km on it.
-- Edited by 427carl on Friday 28th of January 2011 09:35:56 AM
Can't lose for $150.00. Every Buick 350 I've ever driven would light up the tires immediately upon applying the gas pedal. Lots of torque. Great motor. But as some have noted, better in a Buick ...
1977 Pontiac 350. motor and 3 spd trans out of a 1977 Firebird. Motor ran great a couple months ago. motor/trans disconnected and ready to be pulled. includes all accessories (alt, power steering pump, etc). motor has 84000 km on it.
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Reminds me of calling a rifle a gun......it makes some older soldiers cringe...., but if that is the worst thing that happened that day, you had a great day!
-- Edited by Turn2Stone on Friday 28th of January 2011 06:57:26 AM
-- Edited by Turn2Stone on Friday 28th of January 2011 07:00:15 AM